Re: [FarsiLinux] New member & suggestions

[Arash Zeini]

On Tuesday 29 July 2003 14:49, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote:

> Hi,
> We want to simplize the use of farsi in linux. We  may an installable
> distro and packages.
> Right now we are trying to find a base for our distro. Surely all of us
> like it to be debianbase but there is two major problem. First is the
> installer and hd-detection proccedure which are not user friendly in
> debian. The other problem is conservative POV of debian guys in contrust
> with the newly added features that we want them all for farsification.
> So if the sarge installer is good enough I think we can't stick to the
> stable release of debian as base of our distro. Maybe we should use the
> testing version for our base?

Yes, let's agree on the basics:

- We want an installer in Farsi
- We want a user friendly installer: including, but not limited to HW 
detection
- We want a distro with new packages in it
- We want the whole thing as close as possible to Debian
- None of these features need to be there for the first release.

Hence I suggest:

The next immidiate release shoud be based on KNOPPIX 3.2. It has almost 
all, except Farsi installer. But that's fine.

Next we will take a look at Libranet. At the same time I am working on d-i 
with Matthias to see what all we need to do.

Is this an agreeable solution?

> RedHat on the other hand always contains the most new versions of linux
> applications; and not to forget that in Iran it is really easier to buy
> CDs than download them from repositories.
> Any way for now I am working on knoppix remastering, considering its
> installation script it could satsfy us for know and we have time to test
> Libranet.
> I have another suggestion. We can create one extra CD for distros
> included the most needed thing for farsification, fonts, farsiKDE and
> ... ; all packaged and ready to install plus a shell script to make
> things more easier. I suggest creating this plusCD for RedHat that has
> the best xft rendering and default utf8 locale and for debian. RedHat
> needs  fonts and farsiKDE rpms and a way to get ride of it's nasty
> Desktop.

Generally agree, but I do not see a point, with our limited resources, why 
we should take care of so many different distros at the same time. 
Let's concentrate on the Debian base for now.

> For Debian we need other packages like new X and xft and ...

I think that we may be able to take care of this till Sarge. We can follow 
the same routine as Lehmanns in Germany and offer Unofficial CDs with 
maybe newer packages. As long as the issues with dependency are not too 
big. At the other hand, I do not see why we need to be cutting edge just 
as a principle. When necessary we will, when not we keep up with Debian.

> What do you think?

See above :)

Arash

> On Monday 28 July 2003 23:40, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> > On Sunday 27 July 2003 11:28, Arash Zeini wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have added Matthias, who is currently staying with us, to the
> > > list. He had quite interesting news regarding the new installer in
> > > Debian.
> >
> > Which I would also love to be informed about.
> >
> > OK, it is apparent what I am trying to acomplish. Sending email after
> > email, trying to get as much information as possible from you guys, to
> > cover what I have missed during my absence. :-)
> >
> > > We may be able just to go with Debian from beginning.
> >
> > Lovely news. However one that is hard for me to beleive. Considering
> > that sarge's installer is still heavy into development, as is far from
> > stable. Ofcourse I might be wrong, as Matthias seems to be the expert
> > here.
> >
> > It seems I have to downbload sarge iso images one of these days, to
> > personaly test it's installer.
> >
> > Cheers
>
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