Re: [Denemo-devel] trouble creating parts

[Donald J. Stewart]

thanks Richard, I should have remembered to upgrade my 
commands...third time's a charm! I now have the Polymetric Staffs 
feature in my menu.

The problem of displaying the barline ONLY in timpani has not changed, 
however.

In your example (the example you attached), when I change the 
Polymetric Staffs to conditional in:
Movements->Movement Properties Editor->Polymetric Staffs

I easily toggle the 'conditional' directive to: 
'Ignore for the Layout for Part "TrebleRecorder"

and it displays the barline ONLY in the Treble Recorder part...

Perfect...

But in my score, when I attempt to toggle the very same 'conditional' 
directive to 'Ignore for the Layout for Part "Timpani", NOTHING CHANGES

It still displays the repeat bars THROUGHOUT the score...

I know I must be doing something wrong here, but I don't know what it 
is...


On Friday, November 18, 2016 10:00:28 PM PST Richard Shann wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-11-18 at 12:59 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > I just downloaded and reinstalled Andreas' packages from 11/15 and
> > verified that I do not have this feature...
> 
> What this will be is a peril that comes from upgrading development
> versions - they have the peculiar property that they don't change
> version number - in this case always 2.0.13, and so Denemo doesn't
> upgrade your custom commands with the new Default Commands. 
This isn't a
> problem if you haven't done any customization.
> 
> The solution is to go to the Command Center and Load a Standard 
Command
> Set
> choose Default.commands from the list
> Then reply "No" you do not want to load short cuts only - you need this
> new command.
> 
> Sorry for the frustration - tricky to know when people may have started
> customization and to remember to warn them to reload the standard
> commands when doing these in-between-version upgrades.
> 
> Richard
> 
> > D
> > 
> > On Friday, November 18, 2016 12:36:42 PM PST Donald J. Stewart 
wrote:
> > > ok, this is frustrating...
> > > 
> > > I do not have this when I search 'poly' in the Command Center...
> > > 
> > > I do not have this feature under ObjectMenu->MomementMenu-
> > > 
> > > >Typesetter...
> > > 
> > > This is what I have under Typesetter:
> > > 
> > > Print Hide/Unhide Movement
> > > Transpose on Print
> > > Print/Hide Barlines
> > > Print Mensural Barlines
> > > NoteHeadStyles
> > > Custos
> > > Hide Empty Staffs
> > > Print Layout
> > > Page Break Before
> > > Blank Page Before
> > > Reduce Space Between Systems
> > > Beaming Rules
> > > 
> > > I am using AMD64...could this be a reason? Did it not make it into 
the
> > > AMD64 builds?
> > > 
> > > On Friday, November 18, 2016 7:29:18 PM PST Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2016-11-18 at 11:22 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > > I have the builds from 11/15, unfortunately, I can't find any
> > > 
> > > Polymetric
> > > 
> > > > > Staffs feature in my build.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Am I missing something here, or how do I turn this feature on?
> > > > 
> > > > Searching for "poly" in the View->Command Center the fourth hit 
was
> > > > this:
> > > > 
> > > > Command: Polymetric Staffs (Off/On)
> > > > Turns on/off independent time signatures and barline on the 
staffs.
> > > 
> > > Use
> > > 
> > > > for polymetric notation.
> > > > Location: ObjectMenu->MovementMenu->Typesetter
> > > > Internal Name: PolymetricStaffs
> > > > 
> > > > Any build after this commit
> > > > 
> > > > 2016-10-24      Richard Shann   Allow repeats lilypond style to be 
staff
> > > 
> > > context
> > > 
> > > > will allow differing barlines at the same moment.
> > > > 
> > > > Richard
> > > > 
> > > > > In your example, it's in the Movements On Friday, November 18,
> > 
> > 2016
> > 
> > > > > 8:49:48 AM PST Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2016-11-17 at 15:28 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > > > > I see in your example, that under Movements->Movements
> > > 
> > > Property
> > > 
> > > > > > > Editor, I see a directive (perhaps wrong word?) of Denemo
> > > 
> > > Movement
> > > 
> > > > > > > Layout Denemo Directive tagged:Polymetric Staffs
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There's what I need to put in my score, right?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > yes, you need to turn polymetric staffs on, and it must be with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > current version of that command - the very first version that I
> > > 
> > > created
> > > 
> > > > > > allowed simultaneous conflicting time signatures but not 
barlines.
> > > 
> > > That
> > > 
> > > > > > was in the sources for a couple of days, then you asked about
> > > 
> > > barlines
> > > 
> > > > > > and I updated it to allow conflicting barlines too.
> > > > > > If you have the old version turn them off then on again (using 
the
> > > > > > latest build).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:11:01 PM PST Richard
> > 
> > Shann
> > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > You don't need to use markup, the current version of
> > 
> > Polymetric
> > 
> > > > > staffs
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > > allows not only differing time signatures at the same 
musical
> > > > > 
> > > > > moment
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > also differing bar lines - see attached example.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 2016-11-17 at 13:07 -0800, Donald J. Stewart 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > neither one of these works, I'm learning on the fly...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >  On Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:39:56 PM PST 
Donald J.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Stewart
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > yes, that's the question...the lilypond syntax.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > as far as entering repeat barlines that only show up on
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > score
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > not affect MIDI, I see that the lilypond syntax in 
Denemo
> > > > > > > > > > is:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > \bar ".|:"
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > how to create this as a markup, is the question.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > \markup \bar ".|:"
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > \markup {\bar ".|:"}
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > or ?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >  are concernedOn Thursday, November 17, 2016 
9:25:33
> > 
> > AM
> > 
> > > PST
> > > 
> > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Shann wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 14:20 -0800, Donald J. Stewart
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Another question is that I'd like to make the
> > 
> > metronome
> > 
> > > > > > > marking
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > span
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > number of beats, in this case 48-52. What is the best
> > 
> > way
> > 
> > > to
> > > 
> > > > > > > create
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > this in
> > > > > > > > > > > > Denemo? or should I edit it in the lilypond editor?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what this would look like - if you can
> > > > > > > > > > > create
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > LilyPond
> > > > > > > > > > > syntax you need, then it is usually easy to get 
Denemo
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > generate it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > 
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