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Re: [Denemo-devel] trouble creating parts


From: Donald J. Stewart
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] trouble creating parts
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 13:23:42 -0800
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rats...I turned on 'typeset barlines literally' and now Denemp Print View 
shows that Lilypond can't typeset score...

I took out the 'offending' repeats and still get the message...

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:38:14 AM PST Richard Shann wrote:
> On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 23:01 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > I've attached what I'd like to do, it 'seems' like such an easy thing...
> > 
> > The example is in measure 73 of the attached PDF.
> 
> Well there are a number of unusual constructs in bar 73, I've done 
some
> of it in the attached sample:
>       * I turned on "Typeset Barlines Literally" as second-guessing
>         where automatic barlines will come can become tedious. The
>         downside is you have to manually beam the music.
>       * I used the ordinary start/end repeat bars, but the ones with
>         flags on are also available with a slightly different \bar
>         "xxxx" LilyPond syntax (see LilyPond manual).
>       * I used the RepeatMeasure command, but had to tweak the height 
of
>         the % sign in LilyPond, I don't know why - could do with a bug
>         report...
> 
> I didn't tackle the strange 5-naturals key signature, that would
> normally be a change from (say) 5-flats, but not here - you could try
> the LilyPond manual, or the LilyPond snippet repository or the
> address@hidden mailing list to find out how to do this.
> 
> Bottom line is that this sort of music notation requires plenty of
> direct work with LilyPond syntax (or use of a drawing program on the
> output).
> 
> Richard
> 
> > On Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:00:17 PM PST Richard Shann 
wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 12:15 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > thanks Richard, I should have remembered to upgrade my
> > > > commands...third time's a charm! I now have the Polymetric Staffs
> > > > feature in my menu.
> > > > 
> > > > The problem of displaying the barline ONLY in timpani has not
> > > > changed,
> > > > however.
> > > > 
> > > > In your example (the example you attached), when I change the
> > > > Polymetric Staffs to conditional in:
> > > > Movements->Movement Properties Editor->Polymetric Staffs
> > > > 
> > > > I easily toggle the 'conditional' directive to:
> > > > 'Ignore for the Layout for Part "TrebleRecorder"
> > > 
> > > I think you mean, "When I make the PolymetricStaffs directive
> > > conditional with the condition "Ignore  the Layout for Part
> > > "TrebleRecorder""
> > > 
> > > which wouldn't ever be a useful thing to do, since that layout has (I
> > > presume) only one staff, and so there couldn't be any bar lines or 
time
> > > signatures on other staffs conflicting. The directive just allows you 
to
> > > have independent stuff on different staffs in the same Score Layout.
> > > 
> > > I think you would want to have Polymetric staffs unconditional in all
> > > the use-cases I can think of... Perhaps a drawing of what you want 
to
> > > achieve?
> > > 
> > > Richard





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