Re: Real RST possible?

[Thomas Beierlein]

Am Tue, 28 Jan 2020 07:55:47 -0600
schrieb Nate Bargmann <address@hidden>:

> * On 2020 28 Jan 00:29 -0600, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> > Hi Jim, Nate and Zoli,
> > 
> > we should keep in mind to integrate it in the flow of the qso,
> > especially in contests. 
> > 
> > What I mean is running in CQ mode I need the RST of the other
> > station *before* answering his call and will get his RST in his
> > reply. Running in S&P I would first get my RST from him and only
> > *afterwards* need his RST for my reply. 
> > 
> > Another question is if the operator uses ESM or not.  
> 
> To be honest, Tom, I don't see the way I described changing the
> behavior of Enter or Space.  It would merely modify the RST fields to
> be entry boxes but would be prepopulated with 59[9] as now and Enter
> and Space would skip them.  Tab would move into each in turn from
> Call --> RX RST --> TX RST --> Exchange --> Call (CQWW example).  

You are right. There are some chances in changing the handling of input
fields, but to be honest it would be quite difficult. Reason is that
the code to pick up the call sign and exchange is quite a tangled mess
consisting of three main functions: callinput(), getexchange() and
logit() - the last one tying all different modes (S&P, CQ, dxped and Qso
mode) together. Before we sort that out it would be difficult to make
major changes.

> Your musing of Run vs S&P is a good one.  For the most part, I think
> this is a rather specific use case where the '5' is to be replaced by
> another numeral.  Most of us probably won't use this feature.  ;-)
> 
> Another option is to leave all keys as-is and only modify
> Page-Up/Page-Dn so that they work this way:
> 
> Tap Page-Dn until '1' is reached and then like an odometer the first
> numeral rolls down to '4', the next tap rolls the first numeral down
> to '3' and so on while leaving the second numeral at '1', then tap
> Page-Up to set the second numeral.  That would require a few taps of
> Page-Up until the report of 459 is reached.
> 
Ok, That would only extend the functionality of CHANGE_RST. If changing
only the first two numbers are enough that would be the most easy
solution. If key auto repeat does also work for PgUp/PgDn (needs to be
tested) you need not to much key presses to sweep over the range. 

Jim, would that solve your needs? If so it can be implemented in next
weeks.

> Probably the reason this hasn't been requested before is that major
> contest sponsors mostly ignore the signal report for log checking.

And in contest we ignore the 'real' RST value from the band and stay
with 5nn to make more contacts per time.

73, de Tom





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