Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Future of rdiff-backup: Python 3 migration and project maintainership in general

[Graeme Robinson]

I echo the goodwill from users of rdiff-backup like myself.  I would
be lost without it!  Its still the primary backup tool for 90% of my
servers.
I too would be happy to help with testing.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 5:35 PM me via rdiff-backup-users
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> > On 27 juil. 2019 at 17:37, Eric L.  <address@hidden>  wrote:
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> >  Hello again (in the morning for me), in more length and with a fresh mind, 
> > and after having gone through all thread answers, let me give a lengthy 
> > position: 0. I'm the EricZolf referenced elsewhere, who has a branch 
> > finished for Linux with the migration to Python 3. I'll post a note after 
> > this e-mail into the PR 40 to prove it. 1. it's great to see that there is 
> > still a community of users, I didn't realise, else I'd have communicated 
> > earlier. I'm now on the mailing list so all is good. 2. I started the 
> > migration effort because I didn't want to lose my backup tool once Python 2 
> > is out of support, else I'm an IT guy with quite a lot of Ansible 
> > background (Python!), one wife, 2 children, a consulting job and little 
> > time, but making the best out of it. 3. Initially, I didn't want to create 
> > my own definitive fork but wanted to give sol1 a chance to become active 
> > and take their job as maintainer seriously. As Otto noticed, I wasn't very 
> > successful till now. I would have given them the  Summer to react and then 
> > I'd have gone my own way, without a clear idea how to create a community. 
> > 4. Knowing now that there is still such a community alive (thanks to 
> > Otto!), I'd suggest following approach: a. I'll ping a last time sol1 and 
> > ask for their position. b. In the meantime, review my PR, it's huge, no 
> > chance to merge anything else before it's merged back into master. c. I 
> > merge back into my master based on your feedback. d. A last task is 
> > required before others can start and I would ask your patience a last time: 
> > I want the whole code to be PEP8 conform before others contribute to it, 
> > and I think (but open to discussion) that it's best done if one person does 
> > it in one go. e. Once this is done, I would second Patrick's suggestion and 
> > create an rdiff-backup project, open it to the community and push my 
> > repository to there for further common work (I wouldn't like to lose my 
> > repository because I have 30+ issues I've created as I went through the 
> > code). A few more side notes:  A. my PR isn't tested against Windows and 
> > Mac, feel free to test and push fix PR against my branch on my repo and 
> > I'll merge (it should work, never tried, else I'll merge manually). Please 
> > focus on regression bugs that we get quickly this huge branch merged. B. 
> > I'm fully with Patrick regarding CI/CD, if you know tox, you'll see that I 
> > have a good start and one of my next moves would probably have been to 
> > integrate tox with GitHub's pipeline. C. This and anything else like web 
> > page, a mailing list we own, release process, and pending issues, we can 
> > discuss together once we've agreed on the big plan. Let the discussion 
> > roll, happy to be here, happy to hear there are others who care about 
> > rdiff-backup, thanks to Otto for kicking this! Eric On 27/07/2019 01:17, 
> > Eric L. wrote:  >  Hi,  >   >  I've just finished the migration of 
> > rdiff-backup to Python 3 after months of work, improving at the same time 
> > the test framework. Anybody can check and feedback at 
> > https://github.com/sol1/rdiff-backup/pull/40 without paying money  >   >  
> > The quality seems equal to the version 1.2.8 packaged under Fedora, Windows 
> > and Mac support wasn't a priority though.  >   >  Feel free to save the 
> > Debian package, there is enough work for more people, but we should avoid 
> > useless work and forks.  >   >  KR, Eric(Zolf)  >   >  On July 26, 2019 
> > 4:36:24 PM UTC, "Otto Kekäläinen" wrote:  >>  Hello!  >>   >>  There has 
> > not been any new releases of rdiff-backup since 2009. If the  >>  original 
> > maintainer does not intend to work on this project, could I  >>  please be 
> > allowed to take over?  >>   >>  I am a Debian Developer and active in 
> > multiple open source projects.  >>  Our company supports many open source 
> > projects (seravo.com/opensource)  >>  and since we also use rdiff-backup, I 
> > could get some funding and man  >>  power to for example complete the 
> > Python3 migration. I know Python  >>  well and have recently contributed 
> > Python code to AppArmor upstream,  >>  so I think I am technically 
> > competent. With 20 years of open source  >>  experience I believe I can be 
> > a good steward this project.  >>   >>  Rdiff-backup is marked for 
> > autoremoval from Debian on August 8th. I  >>  hope we could get some 
> > responses and activity on this soon so I have a  >>  chance to save 
> > rdiff-backup in Debian.  >>  https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rdiff-backup  
> > >>   >>  That do you think?  >>   >>  If you are in favor of this please 
> > let me know by starring  >>  https://github.com/Seravo/rdiff-backup  >>   
> > >>  If I get more than 5 stars I will begin the Python 3 migration and  >>  
> > also pulling in the best commits from the existing forks that have had  >>  
> > most activity:  >>  - https://github.com/ericzolf/rdiff-backup  >>  - 
> > https://github.com/ardovm/rdiff-backup  >>  - 
> > https://github.com/hosting90/rdiff-backup  >>  - 
> > https://github.com/orangenschalen/rdiff-backup  >>  (see 
> > https://github.com/sol1/rdiff-backup/network)  >>   >>   >>  - Otto 
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