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Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping
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Daniel E Baumann |
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Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping |
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Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:29:37 -0600 |
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What you are talking about, imho, has to do with ease of use issues.
The ODMG standard is a 'technical' document that deals with how
to implement various thing in an ODMS (Object Data Management
System). It consists if a set of interfaces, specification languages,
and a query language. What I see solving the user problem is a module
in designer that lets the end user model business logic, etc.
Dan
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 06:34:02PM -0500, Neil Tiffin wrote:
> I think the goal should be a simple to understand method of modifying
> the system behavior by non information systems professionals. An
> object model (implemented well) is easy to explain to someone who is
> not up on the latest OODB vs relational issues. One can talk about
> purchase order objects, sales orders etc. In the relational world it
> real easy to lose the abstraction because of the need to normalize
> data.
>
> There is no question that the relational model is useful, well
> understood, effective and may even be the best technical solution.
>
> But whatever you call it, I think an abstraction above the relational
> database (or OODB) model is needed to make enterprise apps killer
> apps. We need to deal with user customization at a higher level
> (even thought the customization may flow down to this level in order
> to work.) Unfortunately, the ODMG standard does not (based on my
> limited review) help in this area. You really need to be technically
> savvy to use it.
>
> What is the current thought regarding end user (non-technical)
> customization?
>
> Neil
>
> At 3:26 PM -0600 1/16/03, Jason Cater wrote:
> >There's a fine line between bridging two worlds, and trying to emulate an
> >OODBMS.
> >
> >-- Jason
> >
> >On Thursday 16 January 2003 03:23 pm, Daniel E Baumann wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 02:30:43PM -0600, Jason Cater wrote:
> >> > Since we are sharing articles that have bookmarked, here is an article
> >> > from a respected relational theorist and practicioner:
>
>
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- [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping, Daniel E Baumann, 2003/01/16
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping, Daniel E Baumann, 2003/01/16
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping, Bajusz Tamas, 2003/01/16
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping, Jason Cater, 2003/01/16
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping, Daniel E Baumann, 2003/01/16
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping?, Reinhard Mueller, 2003/01/17
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping?, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra, 2003/01/17
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping?, Reinhard Mueller, 2003/01/17
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping?, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra, 2003/01/17
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping?, Reinhard Mueller, 2003/01/17
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping?, neilt, 2003/01/18
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping?, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra, 2003/01/23
- Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping, Daniel E Baumann, 2003/01/16