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Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping


From: Daniel E Baumann
Subject: Re: [Gnue-dev] Object-Relational Mapping
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:29:37 -0600
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What you are talking about, imho, has to do with ease of use issues.
The ODMG standard is a 'technical' document that deals with how
to implement various thing in an ODMS (Object Data Management
System). It consists if a set of interfaces, specification languages,
and a query language. What I see solving the user problem is a module
in designer that lets the end user model business logic, etc.

Dan

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 06:34:02PM -0500, Neil Tiffin wrote:
> I think the goal should be a simple to understand method of modifying 
> the system behavior by non information systems professionals.  An 
> object model (implemented well) is easy to explain to someone who is 
> not up on the latest OODB vs relational issues.  One can talk about 
> purchase order objects, sales orders etc.  In the relational world it 
> real easy to lose the abstraction because of the need to normalize 
> data.
> 
> There is no question that the relational model is useful, well 
> understood, effective and may even be the best technical solution.
> 
> But whatever you call it, I think an abstraction above the relational 
> database (or OODB) model is needed to make enterprise apps killer 
> apps.  We need to deal with user customization at a higher level 
> (even thought the customization may flow down to this level in order 
> to work.)  Unfortunately, the ODMG standard does not (based on my 
> limited review) help in this area.  You really need to be technically 
> savvy to use it.
> 
> What is the current thought regarding end user (non-technical) 
> customization?
> 
> Neil
> 
> At 3:26 PM -0600 1/16/03, Jason Cater wrote:
> >There's a fine line between bridging two worlds, and trying to emulate an
> >OODBMS.
> >
> >-- Jason
> >
> >On Thursday 16 January 2003 03:23 pm, Daniel E Baumann wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 02:30:43PM -0600, Jason Cater wrote:
> >> > Since we are sharing articles that have bookmarked, here is an article
> >> > from a respected relational theorist and practicioner:
> 
> 
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