Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

[Christopher Dimech]

> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:09 AM
> From: "Tim Cross" <theophilusx@gmail.com>
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, 
> overwriting user options
>
>
> daniela-spit@gmx.it writes:
>
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:51 PM
> >> From: "Gyro Funch" <gyromagnetic@gmail.com>
> >> To: daniela-spit@gmx.it, "Kyle Meyer" <kyle@kyleam.com>
> >> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> >> Subject: Re[2]: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files 
> >> variable, overwriting user options
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>  Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:20 PM
> >> >>  From: "Kyle Meyer" <kyle@kyleam.com>
> >> >>  To: daniela-spit@gmx.it
> >> >>  Cc: "gyro funch" <gyromagnetic@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> >> >>  Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files 
> >> >> variable, overwriting user options
> >> >>
> >> >>daniela-spit@gmx.it writes:
> >> >>
> >> >>  >> From: "gyro funch" <gyromagnetic@gmail.com>
> >> >>  [...]
> >> >>  >> If I'm not mistaken, all of the development is done by volunteers.
> >> >>  >>
> >> >>  >> Perhaps you could help resolve your issue instead of asking other
> >> >>  >> people, who are likely already overworked, to shoulder the burden.
> >> >>  >
> >> >>  > Is there a mailing list for abuse?  If I want abuse I shall ask for 
> >> >> it.
> >> >>  > Loser!
> >> >
> >> >>  I don't see anything that gyro said as abuse.  Name calling, on the
> >> >>  other hand, has no place on this list.
> >> >
> >> >One asks for help, and people tell you to go fix it yourself.  If there
> >> >is any disrespect, you bring it upon yourselves.  And now you start.
> >> >Another Gnu Goon.
> >>
> >> I have found that people on this list are extremely friendly, courteous,
> >> and helpful.
> >> I suggest that you look back at the way you asked for/demanded help and
> >> the various responses you gave in this thread.
> >> Taking on an attitude of entitlement and showing a lack of respect for
> >> others, their perspectives, and efforts may not be the best way to get
> >> help.
> >
> > Nonsense.
>
> Not nonsense at all. You responses have become rude and unhelpful. I can
> understand how you may be frustrated by the bug reporting situation, but
> your response to that frustration has been to complain and be critical in
> a very non-constructive manner. You have now descended into name calling
> and personal abuse. You are beginning to exhibit behaviour
> which is not welcome here and which will result in people ignoring your
> posts. Multiple people have now pointed this out, which should make you
> stop and think rather than become emotional and respond defensively.
>
> the ball is now in your court. How you respond will influence how others
> respond to your requests and suggestions going forward.

Please be aware that it was pointed out that one can configure
org-agenda-skip-unavailable-files to a non-nil value if she wants
non-existing/unreadable files to be skipped.

But that option isn't mentioned in the manual or the docstring of the
org-agenda-files option.  The problem is known and has been a source of great
frustration, that's why it was introduced.

Daniela is quite right.  If multiple people don't want to help her, that's
fine, many others will.

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Christopher Dimech
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