Re: [Denemo-devel] trouble creating parts

[Richard Shann]

On Mon, 2016-11-14 at 21:49 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2016 12:30:07 PM PST Richard Shann wrote:
> > Sorry! There *is* a serious-looking error in the file as you originally
> > posted it; near the top there is:
> > 
> > #(define denemo-top-margin ...for they shall...)
> > 
> > where the red-highlighting starts.
> > 
> > it seems that in setting the top margin you inserted the text "... for
> > they shall ..." instead of a number (such as 20). I deleted this and
> > then ran typeset and got the sort of warning messages I wrote about
> > below (they refer to another copy of your file that I extracted by
> > tortuous means earlier...)
> > 
> > It would be good for those margin setting commands to test out the
> > syntax for validity before letting you insert things like that, I've put
> > a bug report in for this.
> > 
> > You would normally expect to be able to fix this by re-running the
> > margin command, but in this case the bad value persists. To fix your
> > score open up Score->Score Properties Editor and delete the TopMargin
> > directive. There is a second TopMargin directive, which is (I guess) the
> > one where you re-edited the top margin.
> 
> This worked. But what if I need to edit the new part?

which part is "the new part", and what could stop you editing a part?

>  For example, I think 
> because I chose to 'hide empty measures',

which command are you referring to here? (The best way to be exact in
describing a command is to look it up in the Command Center (e.g. via
right-clickon the menu item->Open Command Center on this Command) and
then copy and paste the description panel.

>  a number of measures don't 
> show up.
"show up" in the Denemo Display or the Print View?
> 
> Is this normal behavior? Or is there something I have done incorrectly?

I'm struggling to understand the problem - perhaps a screenshot of what
you have and a description of what you are trying to do? Or create a
tiny example of what you find to be problematic?

Richard



> 
> > 
> > Let me know when if you have a problem deleting this bad directive.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 11:53 +0000, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 10:14 +0000, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 09:46 +0000, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 01:11 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > > > I've attached the file.
> > > > > 
> > > > > you have to compress the file before attaching it to the email.
> > > > 
> > > > I've used the list-moderator interface to allow this email through so
> > > > there should be no need to re-send it compressed on this occasion.
> > > 
> > > The file has now arrived on the mailing list.
> > > I've tested out the .denemo file attached to it.
> > > The full score typesets with error messages in the LilyPond window:
> > > 
> ==========================================================================
> > > ====== Typesetting ...Done/tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintB.ly:
> 685:346:
> > > warning: unterminated hyphen; removing
> > > Bless -- ed __ are __ the poor __ in spi -- rit... Bless -- ed __ are __
> > > the meek... __ Bless -- ed __ are they __ that mourn... Bless -- ed are
> > > they __ that hun -- ger and thirst __ af -- ter jus -- tice..=2E __
> > > Bless -- ed, __ bless -- ed are __ the mer -- ci -- ful... __ Bless --
> > > ed __ are __ the __ peace -- mak -- ers, __ the peace -- mak
> > > 
> > > -- ers. __  jus -- tice... __  __ af -- __ Bless-
> > > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintB.ly:1081:21: warning: 
> unterminated
> > > decrescendo
> > > 
> > >          f-\fermata
> > >          
> > >                     \decr \AutoEndMovementBarline
> > > 
> > > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintB.ly:81:79: warning: 
> decrescendo too small
> > > 
> > >          f'' f'' \cr g'' g'' f'' f'' g'' g'' f'' f'' g'' g''<>  \ff
> > > 
> > > bes''4:32
> > > 
> > > \decr~  \!\AutoBarline
> > > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintB.ly:690:23: warning: cannot 
> resolve rest
> > > collision: rest direction not set
> > > 
> > >          \tempo 4=84
> > >          
> > >                       r1\AutoBarline
> > >        
> > >        ...
> > > 
> > > 
> ==========================================================================
> > > ======
> > > 
> > > The first message is about your lyrics - I'm not an expert on LilyPond
> > > lyric syntax - you have doubled hyphens and doubled underscores - 
> should
> > > these be doubled? Should not the hyphens be attached to the 
> previous
> > > syllable (i.e. no space)?
> > > 
> > > The second message says you have a decr start with no decr end 
> later.
> > > 
> > > The last message is for part writing, where you have more than one 
> rest
> > > at one moment and have not specified which voice they are in, or if 
> they
> > > are to be combined (see Staffs/Voices->Voices menu).
> > > 
> > > However, these are all just Warning messages, and so you *do* get a
> > > typeset score.
> > > 
> > > Putting the cursor in the top staff in the Denemo Display and clicking
> > > Part in the Print View also typesets with warning, attached is the PDF
> > > created by clicking the PDF button. The LilyPond window shows the
> > > following warnings in the lower pane in this case:
> > > 
> > > 
> ==========================================================================
> > > ====== Typesetting ...Done/tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintA.ly:
> 36:50:
> > > warning: crescendo too small
> > > 
> > >          g'?2.-\tenuto \decr<>  \p d'4\glissando
> > >          
> > >                                                  \cr( \!\AutoBarline
> > > 
> > > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintA.ly:81:79: warning: 
> decrescendo too small
> > > 
> > >          f'' f'' \cr g'' g'' f'' f'' g'' g'' f'' f'' g'' g''<>  \ff
> > > 
> > > bes''4:32
> > > 
> > > \decr~  \!\AutoBarline
> > > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintA.ly:163:77: warning: 
> decrescendo too
> > > small
> > > 
> > >          bes'4-\tenuto<>  \f a'4-\tenuto aes'4-\tenuto<>  \mf
> > > 
> > > ges'4-\tenuto
> > > 
> > > \decr\AutoBarline
> > > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintA.ly:189:139: warning: 
> decrescendo too
> > > small
> > > 
> > >         <>  \f<> ^\markup \italic {"con sord." } cis''16 \cr dis'' e''
> > > 
> > > fis'' cis'' dis'' e'' fis'' cis'' dis'' e'' fis''<>  \ff gis''4:32
> > > 
> > > \decr~  \!\AutoBarli...
> > > 
> ==========================================================================
> > > ======
> > > 
> > > the cursor does indeed move to the first of these warnings at Staff 1,
> > > bar 15 on the last note. And indeed the crescendo between the d'4 
> (which
> > > is a d 1/4) note and the following  ees''8 (an e-flat 1/8th) note is
> > > rendered as a squashed up line. LilyPond is not clever enough to fix
> > > this for you by giving extra space.
> > > Searching in the View->Command Center for "cres" I came to
> > > 
> > > Command: Lengthen Hairpin
> > > Inserts a directive to lengthen the following cresc or dim hairpin.
> > > Location: ObjectMenu->NotesRests->Markings->Dynamics
> > > Internal Name: LengthenHairpin
> > > 
> > > which may help in this situation.
> > > 
> > > I also put the cursor in the Soprano staff and clicked Part in the Print
> > > View - this typeset without warning messages - as it involves those __
> > > and -- in the lyrics I guess they are all right - the "warning:
> > > unterminated hyphen; removing" message above must refer to some 
> other
> > > verse.
> > > 
> > > HTH
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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