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Re: [Denemo-devel] trouble creating parts


From: Donald J. Stewart
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] trouble creating parts
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 21:49:10 -0800
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On Saturday, November 12, 2016 12:30:07 PM PST Richard Shann wrote:
> Sorry! There *is* a serious-looking error in the file as you originally
> posted it; near the top there is:
> 
> #(define denemo-top-margin ...for they shall...)
> 
> where the red-highlighting starts.
> 
> it seems that in setting the top margin you inserted the text "... for
> they shall ..." instead of a number (such as 20). I deleted this and
> then ran typeset and got the sort of warning messages I wrote about
> below (they refer to another copy of your file that I extracted by
> tortuous means earlier...)
> 
> It would be good for those margin setting commands to test out the
> syntax for validity before letting you insert things like that, I've put
> a bug report in for this.
> 
> You would normally expect to be able to fix this by re-running the
> margin command, but in this case the bad value persists. To fix your
> score open up Score->Score Properties Editor and delete the TopMargin
> directive. There is a second TopMargin directive, which is (I guess) the
> one where you re-edited the top margin.

This worked. But what if I need to edit the new part? For example, I think 
because I chose to 'hide empty measures', a number of measures don't 
show up.

Is this normal behavior? Or is there something I have done incorrectly?

> 
> Let me know when if you have a problem deleting this bad directive.
> 
> Richard
> 
> On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 11:53 +0000, Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 10:14 +0000, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 09:46 +0000, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 01:11 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > > I've attached the file.
> > > > 
> > > > you have to compress the file before attaching it to the email.
> > > 
> > > I've used the list-moderator interface to allow this email through so
> > > there should be no need to re-send it compressed on this occasion.
> > 
> > The file has now arrived on the mailing list.
> > I've tested out the .denemo file attached to it.
> > The full score typesets with error messages in the LilyPond window:
> > 
==========================================================================
> > ====== Typesetting ...Done/tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintB.ly:
685:346:
> > warning: unterminated hyphen; removing
> > Bless -- ed __ are __ the poor __ in spi -- rit... Bless -- ed __ are __
> > the meek... __ Bless -- ed __ are they __ that mourn... Bless -- ed are
> > they __ that hun -- ger and thirst __ af -- ter jus -- tice..=2E __
> > Bless -- ed, __ bless -- ed are __ the mer -- ci -- ful... __ Bless --
> > ed __ are __ the __ peace -- mak -- ers, __ the peace -- mak
> > 
> > -- ers. __  jus -- tice... __  __ af -- __ Bless-
> > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintB.ly:1081:21: warning: 
unterminated
> > decrescendo
> > 
> >          f-\fermata
> >          
> >                     \decr \AutoEndMovementBarline
> > 
> > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintB.ly:81:79: warning: 
decrescendo too small
> > 
> >          f'' f'' \cr g'' g'' f'' f'' g'' g'' f'' f'' g'' g''<>  \ff
> > 
> > bes''4:32
> > 
> > \decr~  \!\AutoBarline
> > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintB.ly:690:23: warning: cannot 
resolve rest
> > collision: rest direction not set
> > 
> >          \tempo 4=84
> >          
> >                       r1\AutoBarline
> >        
> >        ...
> > 
> > 
==========================================================================
> > ======
> > 
> > The first message is about your lyrics - I'm not an expert on LilyPond
> > lyric syntax - you have doubled hyphens and doubled underscores - 
should
> > these be doubled? Should not the hyphens be attached to the 
previous
> > syllable (i.e. no space)?
> > 
> > The second message says you have a decr start with no decr end 
later.
> > 
> > The last message is for part writing, where you have more than one 
rest
> > at one moment and have not specified which voice they are in, or if 
they
> > are to be combined (see Staffs/Voices->Voices menu).
> > 
> > However, these are all just Warning messages, and so you *do* get a
> > typeset score.
> > 
> > Putting the cursor in the top staff in the Denemo Display and clicking
> > Part in the Print View also typesets with warning, attached is the PDF
> > created by clicking the PDF button. The LilyPond window shows the
> > following warnings in the lower pane in this case:
> > 
> > 
==========================================================================
> > ====== Typesetting ...Done/tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintA.ly:
36:50:
> > warning: crescendo too small
> > 
> >          g'?2.-\tenuto \decr<>  \p d'4\glissando
> >          
> >                                                  \cr( \!\AutoBarline
> > 
> > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintA.ly:81:79: warning: 
decrescendo too small
> > 
> >          f'' f'' \cr g'' g'' f'' f'' g'' g'' f'' f'' g'' g''<>  \ff
> > 
> > bes''4:32
> > 
> > \decr~  \!\AutoBarline
> > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintA.ly:163:77: warning: 
decrescendo too
> > small
> > 
> >          bes'4-\tenuto<>  \f a'4-\tenuto aes'4-\tenuto<>  \mf
> > 
> > ges'4-\tenuto
> > 
> > \decr\AutoBarline
> > /tmp/Denemo_UHBTQY/denemoprintA.ly:189:139: warning: 
decrescendo too
> > small
> > 
> >         <>  \f<> ^\markup \italic {"con sord." } cis''16 \cr dis'' e''
> > 
> > fis'' cis'' dis'' e'' fis'' cis'' dis'' e'' fis''<>  \ff gis''4:32
> > 
> > \decr~  \!\AutoBarli...
> > 
==========================================================================
> > ======
> > 
> > the cursor does indeed move to the first of these warnings at Staff 1,
> > bar 15 on the last note. And indeed the crescendo between the d'4 
(which
> > is a d 1/4) note and the following  ees''8 (an e-flat 1/8th) note is
> > rendered as a squashed up line. LilyPond is not clever enough to fix
> > this for you by giving extra space.
> > Searching in the View->Command Center for "cres" I came to
> > 
> > Command: Lengthen Hairpin
> > Inserts a directive to lengthen the following cresc or dim hairpin.
> > Location: ObjectMenu->NotesRests->Markings->Dynamics
> > Internal Name: LengthenHairpin
> > 
> > which may help in this situation.
> > 
> > I also put the cursor in the Soprano staff and clicked Part in the Print
> > View - this typeset without warning messages - as it involves those __
> > and -- in the lyrics I guess they are all right - the "warning:
> > unterminated hyphen; removing" message above must refer to some 
other
> > verse.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
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