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Re: running viewmail under emacs 29.3


From: Göran Uddeborg
Subject: Re: running viewmail under emacs 29.3
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 08:53:38 +0200

Hi Mark and others,

My intention also was to migrate the entire history. (Otherwise the
migration would have been trivial.) Do you plan to use the gitlab.com
repository I created? If so, do you have an account there so I can
give you the access rights?

Mark Diekhans skrev:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> My branch does not include Stefan's work and I know there are a
> couple of remaining problems with emacs compile.
> 
> I am out of the country this week, but could work with you
> starting next week.  I was going to convert the entire bzr tree
> to get the history and then merge in patches.
> 
> Mark
> 
> peter.julien.rayner@gmail.com <peter.julien.rayner@gmail.com> writes:
> > Just a quick note to say that the branch:
> > >  
> bzr+ssh://markd-kermodei@bazaar.launchpad.net/~markd-kermodei/vm/vm-emacs-28/
> > configured, made and ran out of the box under 29.3. I've not checked
> > the impact of Mark's other changes nor whether this includes or
> > obviates Stefan's cleanups but   we have a potential base to work
> > from. If noone else steps up in a week I'll open a repo for this
> > version and look to integrate existing patches. A warning that if I do
> > this it will be github; that might stimulate others to offer to manage
> > on their preferred host.
> > Thanks again all for a wonderful tool.
> > regards
> > Peter
> > >
> > >However, I think whatever is left of the VM community needs to
> > >figure out if we want to breath new life into VM or let it join
> > >the crypt of yesterdays great software.
> > >
> > >Personally, I love VM, but the compatibility issues, as well as
> > >not scaling to modern email volume, is increasingly problematic.
> > >While I would be happy to be part of a community to resurrect
> > >and modernize VM, I just don't have bandwidth to be developing
> > >my own email client.
> > >
> > >If anyone is interested, lets start a conversation.  VM is an
> > >amazing pieces of software.  We might be able to attract others
> > >if we can seed a modern approach to collaborative development.
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >Stefan Monnier via General discussion of VM mail reader 
> <viewmail-info@nongnu.org> writes:
> > >> > A naive attempt to clone from https://github.com/emacsorphanage/vm/
> > >> > and run failed.  I've been running a version from the bzr repo under
> > >> > 29.0.50.
> > >> 
> > >> [ Hmm... 29.3 or the obsolete 29.0.50?  ]
> > >> 
> > >> > A few questions:
> > >> > - Am I starting from the right repo or is there a more recent version?
> > >> > - Are others running successfully in the case I'm trying?
> > >> > - Does any of the experienced maintainers have a sense of how hard 
> > >> > this 
> will
> > >> >   be to fix?  I'm willing to try it but would like an estimate of 
> difficulty
> > >> >   and time.
> > >> 
> > >> Check the latest thread in this mailing-list, under the subject
> > >> 
> > >>     vm, emacs 28.2 (debian), urls in minibuffer
> > >> 
> > >> where I sent a "cleanup" patch to help get the code closer to modern
> > >> ELisp.  John Stoffel gave up on trying to make it work, but I don't
> > >> think it's should be very hard.  I don't use VM myself, but I'm quite
> > >> experienced in fixing those kinds of things and would be glad to provide
> > >> guidance.  Maybe you can team with John?
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >>         Stefan
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >
> > 
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