Re: [Fsuk-manchester] Ubuntu !free

[Tim Dobson]

David Greaves wrote:
> Dave Crossland wrote:
> > I think its fair to keep up pressure on people who [think?] they have arrived
> > when they haven't.
>
> On whose journey? Yours or theirs? :)
>
> I would suggest that you continue to *promote* fs to those people. And respect
> their decisions. Linus is not an FS supporter in the same way that RMS is. I
> respect his decision to stay GPL2 even though I disagree. I would never suggest
> pressuring him but until he says "enough is enough" I am happy to see people
> debate the philosophy with him.

Don't worry about not being from Manchester, there are actually quite a 
few people who aren't local. If you feel you can get something out of 
being on here, and it seems to me you do, you are very welcome. :)

I would suggest that it is productive to push so far and not further. 
Being able to sense the line is something which is quite hard to judge 
and actually stopping the conversation there is also something difficult.

When I saw Dave (Crossland) this weekend, I encouraged him to move from 
the gmail interface to thunderbird/icedove with IMAP, but I wasn't 
refusing to talk to him because he wouldn't do it **NOW**.

However, many people haven't embraced Free Software like Dave has, and 
it is often more difficult.

The trick, which is quite difficult, is to try and be friendly with 
someone and explain it to them or ask them whether they have [insert 
small step towards freedom] yet?

I don't think it is at all easy, but it is really important to remain 
calm, measured and unemotional at all times, even if the other person is 
really laying into you. Raising your voice if the other person raises 
their voice is never helpful. :)

Cheers

Tim

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