Re: [Denemo-devel] One verse per page for projector presentation

[Richard Shann]

Ok, I have stepped through how to do this:

First create Movement 1 with the music of the first verse and the lyrics
of the first verse
Then Movment 2 with music of chorus and chorus lyrics

Then movements 3, 4, 5 ... with empty music and lyrics for verse 2,
lyrics for chorus, lyrics for verse 3, lyrics for chorus ...
respectively.

Notice that you do, unfortunately have to keep pasting the chorus lyrics
- that is really a minor bug that you can't just refer to one set of
lyrics in the score layout.

Once you have this set up you do View->Score Layout
Choose Customize and Replace the Default Score Layout.
Then you have to expand each movement, expand the staff, expand the
voice and Substitute the music. Starting with movement after the second
(chorus) you substitute the music from Movement 1 or Movement 2
depending on whether it is a verse or a chorus.

This "substitute the music" is not as friendly as it could be, it
doesn't offer you a list of musics to choose, you have to edit the name
of the music: the name of the music is constructed like this

\MvmntXXXVoiceYYY

for movement XXX voice YYY

so for example:

\MvmntIVVoiceI

is referring to Voice I of Movement IV

You will always have VoiceI, and you will want the references to either
MvmntI for the verse or MvmntII for the chorus.

The \ sign, by the way, is LilyPond's way of making a reference to that
music.

Some things to be careful about: those large X buttons are delete
buttons, they can't be undone, so be especially careful if the Score
Layout window has gotten hidden behind the Display window, clicking on
the bit that is visible could spell disaster for your layout if the bit
visible is a delete button!
Second, once you have re-loaded the score you will only have the
LilyPond syntax to edit, this GUI interface is one-off only. Having said
that, the LilyPond editing is not very hard, if you look at the bottom
of the View->LilyPond window you will see all the movements each one a
block of text like this:


\score { %Start of Movement
 <<

%Start of Staff
\new Staff = "Part 1"  << 
 \new Voice = "VoiceIMvmntIV"  { 
  \clef treble 
{ \key c \major}
{ \time 4/4 }
 \MvmntIVVoiceI                } %End of voice
                
>>
%End of Staff

        \new Lyrics = MvmntIVVoiceIVerseI

        \MvmntIVVoiceIVerseIContext

>>

\header {
title = ##f
instrument = ##f

}

} %End of Movement


All that fiddling about with the Score Layout GUI in this case is just
replacing the line

 \MvmntIVVoiceI                } %End of voice
with the line
 \MvmntIVoiceI                } %End of voice

if it is the verse or with \MvmntIIVoiceI if it is a chorus.

But I know some people just block-up when they see a page of
gobbledegook ...

Then, of course you add title page, movement titles and page breaks
between movements all as usual. You may want landscape page setting if
it is for a wide projection screen...

HTH

Richard



On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 21:46 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> It is late at night here, so I will just answer very briefly (more
> tomorrow)
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 20:06 +0000, Kevin Wenz wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks for your answer!
> > 
> > 
> > The verses should be laid out underneath the notes and the notes
> > should be repeated for every verse/chorus.
> > 
> > 
> > If my song has a chorus and 2 verses it should look like that:
> > ---------------------------
> > 
> > -- first page --
> > 
> > Title of the song
> > 
> > Copy right
> > ....
> > 
> > 
> > -- second page --
> > 
> > contains: the text and the notes of the first verse (the verse's
> > syllables should be placed under each corresponding note)
> > 
> > -- thirds page --
> > contains: the text and the notes of the chorus (again the text is laid
> > out under the notes)
> > 
> > -- fourth page --
> > contains: the text and the notes of the second verse (again the text
> > is laid out under the notes)
> > 
> > -- fifth page --
> > contains: the text and the notes of the chorus (once again the text is
> > laid out under the notes)
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Okay i have to use the 'Score Layout'.
> > 
> > For now i have 2 movements (one for the verses and one for the
> > chorus). How can i change the order of the specified verses and the
> > chorus in the 'Score Layout'. The only things i am seeing are the
> > 'score-wide settings' and the two movements (the thing i can do is
> > changing the verses order inside a movement).
> > 
> > Is it possible to add more movements and reuse the notes?
> 
> Yes, that is one approach you can use, I'll do an example tomorrow.
> 
> >  Do i have the wrong approach? Or do i maybe have to work with
> > lilypond commands?
> 
> I'm sure it won't involve editing actual LilyPond - you have all the
> ingredients to hand.
> 
> Richard
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Greetings
> > 
> > - Kevin
> > 
> > 
> > Richard Shann <address@hidden> schrieb am Mi., 16. Sep. 2015
> > um 17:03 Uhr:
> > 
> >         On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 15:32 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> >         > so unless you can
> >         > work editing that
> >         sorry, that was garbled, omitting the quoted bit renders it
> >         intelligible...
> >         R
> >         
> 
> 
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