Re: Re: [Denemo-devel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?] Windows Build 0.8.1?= 3 and Menucleaning

[denemo]

About the font problem:
Sooner or later the problem with installing fonts will be solved. But
one more thing:

I suggest that Windows-Denemo looks on every startup if the Font is
there. If not it attempts to install it (Watch out for sufficient
user-rights).

This way we also take care of the fact that Windows users often install
a new system. Denemo will run without installing again (it DOES not use
the registry, right?).

And if you think in the future, a minimal version of Win-Denemo: It
could be shipped without installer, just a zipped package. You can carry
it around on a USB Stick.

But this is not truly portable, just a Workaround. I looked a bit if
there is a user font dir or a way to tell Denemo (any win app) to use a
additional font path but no luck until now. But somehow in the weird
windows world it must be possible. I think I should research more for
"portable apps".

Nils


Am 02.02.2010 um  Uhr haben Sie geschrieben:
> On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:04 +0100, Nils wrote:
> > On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:29:38 +0000
> > Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 18:10 +0100, Till Hartamnn wrote:
> > > > I haven't read recent denemo-mailinglist-mails thoroughly, but:
> > > > for gnome it is "gnome-open filename.extension", for Windows I
think
> > > > it
> > > > was "start filename.extension", on Mac it might be "open
> > > > filename.extension" (which also exists on most/all linux
> > > > distributions,
> > > > but "open" will try to find an application able to open the
final
> > > > inside
> > > > the terminal).
> > > > I hope that is at least of some help to you.
> > >
> > > Thanks for this. I have tried
> > > start denemoprint.pdf
> > >
> > > on a windows vista box and it works. And, in fact,
> > >
> > > start denemoprint.ly
> > >
> > > successfully ran lilypond on the file.
> > >
> > > On my Debian default setup, open failed with:
> > >
> > > Could not get a file descriptor referring to the console
> > >
> > > which is presumably the problem you are referring to. The
gnome-open
> > > command worked.
> > >
> > > How should we make use of this? One of the wrinkles is that on
windows
> > > if the viewer is not closed the file it is viewing cannot be
re-written,
> > > so subsequent print attempts fail.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> >
> > I think for Linux its no problem that people enter their tools
themselves.
> > Maybe (for Windows, too) a GUI file open Dialog would be nice for
the
> Pref-Fields.
> >
> > For Windows It might be nice to leave the pdf viewer field there,
but empty.
> Empty means "start", if you enter a binary then this is used instead.
>
> yes, that sounds good - the form of the command is the same (i.e. it
is
> as if start was the name of the command that you need).
> > This does not solve the problem you discribed, but there is Hack
that works
> right now?
> >
> > To lilypond:
> > I am not sure how the entire lilypond situation is handeld since we
use GUB.
> Denemo has its own Lilypond now and I think the reason was (in fact I
voted for
> "include ly") that a)Its secured that there is at least one Ly-version
and
> b)that we know a Ly version is used that works with Denemo.
> > What I don't know is how this Lilyond is registered globally. There
is a
> Desktop-Shortcut after installation,
>
> > but afaik the GUB install does not make any windows-registry
changes, which is
> very good but is a proof that Denemos lilypond is not globally
avaible.
> >
> > That means: To rely on start xy.ly, if my believe is true, will not
work if
> there is no global Lilypond installed.
> It seems that this is not the case. I have just experimented, and it
> seems that installing denemo sets up the file association with .ly to
> lilypond that is inside the GNU_Denemo tree. It does this if there is
no
> file association already.
> I had set up a file association for a non-sysadmin user for .ly to
> notepad, and this was not changed by the sysadmin account installing
> denemo. However, once this had been done, the user was offered
lilypond
> as "recommended" programs for .ly (under the properties menu item).
>
> >  So lets keep with the current relative path to lilypond-windows.
> yes
> > Maybe it just works fine and my system crashed because of other
reasons (it
> was a VM after all).
> I think so, there is no reason to suspect denemo of crashing when
unable
> to spawn the external programs - we have done it plenty of times.
>
> However, my experiments suggest users who have an alternative file
assoc
> set for .ly  will have to set the pref dialog box up.
>
> Let's go with that.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>