Re: [Phpgroupware-users] Addressbook Entries and Everything in its place

[Dave Hall]

Ruben Safir <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hello Dave:
> 
> BTW Dave,
> 
> I just CAN'T Take on another responsibility.  I'm always the first
> to do it if nobody else want to, but between NYLXS 
> (http://www.nylxs.com),NY Fair Use (http://www.nyfairuse.org), and 
> teaching 3 classes a week,
> and work... I just can't do anymore.

Thats fine ... it was just an invitation if you were interested.  We are
always on the look out for new blood.

> 
> I'm already probibly the busiest person the the Free Software 
> Movement,and I have to eat....

I know the feeling.

> 
> 
> Ruben
> 
> 
> Dave Hall (address@hidden) wrote*:
> >
> >Ruben Safir <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> >> Dave Hall (address@hidden) wrote*:
> >> >
> >> >1. Setup a 'global' group called "all users"
> >> >2. Setup a global category called "office staff" (or whatever)
> >>
> >> OK 8-)  What happened to 4 -
> >>
> >
> >OK so my numbering was slightly out ... i reordered it ... it was 
> late>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >4. Add ACL rights in admin to allow members of the "all users"
> >> group to
> >> >read "all user" entries
> >> >3. Any user adds all the entries
> >> >5. Each night a cron job is run to reassign 'ownership' of these
> >> entries>to the group - it could be run hourly if you like
> >>
> >> WHAT?  Why is this necessary?
> >
> >This way you have it being centrally owned.  Another way of doing it
> >would be to create a group called HR and have all users be able 
> to read
> >from there.
> >
> >A similar process can be used for delegation.
> >
> >>
> >> I'd like to make a strong suggestion that at LEAST all the users
> >> be added to group
> >> read records under the company directory with KEY information
> >> abaible with NO
> >> FURTHER. clicking, hacking or Cron.
> >
> >This is possible using the HR module at the moment.  
> Unfortunately the
> >ESP import inteface hasn't been developed so a mouse and keyboard 
> must>be used to eneter the required information.
> >
> >If you want to use the addressbook for this then see my comments 
> above.>
> >
> >>
> >> All companies need a company directory.  Make an opt out option if
> >> more privacy
> >> is needed for any particular individual.
> >>
> >
> >Agreed.  That is what HR gives you, if you want more from it 
> either code
> >it yourself and post the patch or log a feature request for it.
> >
> >Cheers
> >skwashd
> >
> >>
> >> Ruben
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> On another note, why can’t we see the system users in the 
> address>> >> book.
> >> >
> >> >I posted a reply to this question (i thnk it was yours iirc) 
> on this
> >> >issue on savannah ... it is possible using the hr app and 
> using the
> >> >profile id button.  If this is not enough then maybe a request
> >> for a
> >> >batch add function can be submitted as a feature request.
> >> >
> >> >> Some of our users would like to group the system users and
> >> email the
> >> >> group?
> >> >
> >> >This may be possible ... but i would suggest that you put in a
> >> feature>request for it on savannah (see
> >> >http://savannah.gnu.org/support/?group=phpgroupware ), as a fair
> >> bit of
> >> >coding will be needed from what i understand.
> >> >
> >> >I would suggest the same course of action to anyone wanting
> >> enhancements>to phpgw apps.  This way the developers/maintainers
> >> of apps are aware of
> >> >what you (the users) want from the system.  It would be nice if
> >> they had
> >> >enough time in the day to read every posting on this list, every
> >> posting>on the developer list, every bug report, every support
> >> request, every
> >> >patch and monitor irc and still have some time left to develop.
> >> >
> >> >Although it may seem that they are super human, I hate to be the
> >> one to
> >> >break it to you they aren't ;)
> >> >
> >> >I think that if information winds up where it belongs it will 
> get the
> >> >attention it deserves.
> >> >
> >> >Someone can correct me if I am wrong but this is where I 
> understand>> >things should go:
> >> >
> >> >* User List( address@hidden - this list)
> >> >User problems, if you want to get an answer on a problem, then
> >> this is
> >> >the place to come, we will let you know if it is a bug or not.
> >> >
> >> >* Developer List( address@hidden)
> >> >Where developer issues are discussed, such as the new template
> >> system.>
> >> >* Savannah Bugs( 
> http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=phpgroupware )
> >> >Where bugs are reported, they are then dealt with by the
> 
> >> >developer/maintainer of the app - Please select the app category
> >> >
> >> >* Savannah Support(
> >> http://savannah.gnu.org/support/?group=phpgroupware )
> >> >DO NOT POST BUGS HERE (sorry for shouting, but the point must be
> >> made).> Post your feaure requests here (where they will be
> >> allocated and
> >> >evaluated) or questions about the system here - Please select the
> >> type>category.
> >> >
> >> >* Savannah Patches(
> >> http://savannah.gnu.org/patch/?group=phpgroupware )
> >> >This is where enhancements to the product are posted.  Once 
> accepted>> >they are added to cvs.  Please be aware that the 
> patches posted
> >> here are
> >> >considered un tested until added to cvs.  When posting patches 
> please>> >select the app category.
> >> >
> >> >* IRC( irc://irc.freenode.net/phpgroupware or #phpgroupware on
> >> freenode.net)>Come hang out with the phpgw crew :)
> >> >
> >> >Cheers
> >> >
> >> >skwashd
> >> >Dave Hall
> >> >
> >> >
> >> --
> >> Ruben Saifr
> >>
> >> Rosenzweig and Maffia LLP
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Ruben Saifr
> 
> Rosenzweig and Maffia LLP
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