Re: Chapter 2.1 Vocal music of LPNR

[David Wright]

On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 10:12:01 (+0200), Jacques Menu wrote:
> Here is an MWE showing my problem.
> 
> What I don’t understand is why and extra ‘_2’ is needed in lyricsManual to 
> obtain the same alignment as in the two automatic cases.
> The snippet comes from Rameau’s Les Indes Galantes.
> 
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> 
> \version "2.19.83"
> 
> 
> music = \relative c'' {
>   fis2 fis4 fis8 gis | % 40
>   ais!8 [ gis fis gis ] ais [ b cis d ] ( | % 41
>   e2 ) e4 d8 cis | % 42
>   d2 b8 cis d e | % 43
>   \break | % 44
> }
> 
> lyricsManual = \lyricmode {
>   "mats!"2
> 
>   "Et"4 "tu"8 "ré"8 -- "pands"8 __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _2 %%%% HERE

In manual mode, you've supplied durations to the lyrics, and they're
being used. The 2 has the same function as the 4 on the next line:
it changes the implied duration of the next lyric if it doesn't have
an explicit duration attached. Without the 2, the final _ would
have a duration like the others, 8.

>   "dans"4 "nos"8 "cli" -- "mats"2
>   "Ta"8 "plus"8 "é" -- "cla"8
> }
> 
> lyricsAutomatic = \lyricmode {
>   "mats!"2
> 
>   "Et"4 "tu"8 "ré"8 -- "pands"8 __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ %%%% HERE

With \lyricsto, these automatic lyrics don't need durations,
and so they're ignored. You've removed just the solitary 2.
Try removing all the 4s and 8s. They're all ignored.

>   "dans"4 "nos"8 "cli" -- "mats"2
>   "Ta"8 "plus"8 "é" -- "cla"8
> }
> 
> lyricsAutomaticSimpler = \lyricmode {
>   mats!
> 
>   Et tu ré -- pands __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ %%%% HERE
>   dans nos cli -- mats
>   Ta plus é -- cla
> }
> 
> <<
>   \new Staff = "Part_PFour_Staff_One"
>   <<
>     \context Voice = "Part_PFour_Staff_One_Voice_One" <<
>       \music
>     >>
> 
>     \new Lyrics
>     \with {
>       associatedVoice = "Part_PFour_Staff_One_Voice_One"
>     }
>     \lyricsManual
>   >>
> >>
> 
> <<
>   \new Staff = "Part_PFour_Staff_One"
>   <<
>     \context Voice = "Part_PFour_Staff_One_Voice_One" <<
>       \music
>     >>
> 
>     \new Lyrics {
>       \lyricsto "Part_PFour_Staff_One_Voice_One" {
>         \lyricsAutomatic
>       }
>     }
>   >>
> >>
> 
> <<
>   \new Staff = "Part_PFour_Staff_One"
>   <<
>     \context Voice = "Part_PFour_Staff_One_Voice_One" <<
>       \music
>     >>
> 
>     \new Lyrics {
>       \lyricsto "Part_PFour_Staff_One_Voice_One" {
>         \lyricsAutomaticSimpler
>       }
>     }
>   >>
> >>
> 
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

> > On 26.08.19 17:39, Jacques Menu wrote:
> >> Hello folks,
> >> 
> >> The more I read this chapter, and the more I feel it is a kind of 
> >> imbroglio, mixing automatic and manual alignment of lyrics to the voice.
> >> 
> >> Do you also feel this would merit a rewrite?

Cheers,
David.