Re: Praise on HyRolo

[Robert Weiner]

Thanks for your feedback and posting.  I think there are good ideas in your msg 
for calling, texting, and faxing.  One key need would be to agree on numbering 
and the format if each type of number.  To allow for similar things I have long 
prefaced telephone numbers with functional single character prefixes, for Work, 
Home, Mobile, Fax, etc.  Then they are recognized as implicit buttons to do 
what I want.

I think we will also consider whether the action/assist keys could, with a 
specific setting enabled, support a context-aware popup menu to choose from 
multiple actions, with keyboard support.

-- Bob

> On Aug 6, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> 
> I use:  Editor:      GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 12, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X 
> toolkit, cairo version 1.14.8, Xaw3d scroll bars)
> 
>        Hyperbole:   7.0.6
>        Sys Type:    x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>        OS Type:     gnu/linux
>        Window Sys:  x
>        News Reader: Gnus v5.13
> 
> I am not heavy user of HyRolo, yet I do have praise for the concepts
> and flexibility of it.
> 
> My contact management is ordered. Let me say that I have developed my
> contact management system by using the PostgreSQL database, since 15
> years 8 months and 28 days. And this is working so well.
> 
> My system is very ordered, for example, I may choose for a contact and
> get list of various options on what to do with such contact, like if I
> wish to send SMS, I can do it quicker than by phone, with the
> connected phone and by using application on phone:
> https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.android.shellms/
> 
> If I wish to add note to contact, I can do it, if I wish to open Org
> file for contact, it is a second, with some templates inside. I am
> sorting files by contacts and by dates, so if I wish to open directory
> for specific contact, it is less then a second, and I find all files
> for that specific contact. I can add their skills, I can subscribe
> them to mailing lists, or send them some prepared emails, then I can
> convert contact to BBDB, or see which people have been introduced or
> export vCards, or designated specific identity to this contact, as I
> use different businesses and identities to communicate.
> 
> In general my interface to my system is similar to HyRolo, I can
> quickly search for a contact, and do other actions on such contact.
> 
> Yet my system came from a system of keeping simple text files, in very
> similar fashion, almost same fashion as HyRolo. I just guess that
> HyRolo does not get much exposure. And before using computer text
> files in similar fashion as HyRolo, I was using the paper cards or
> cards similar to Rolodex, they were just ordered in the box, and I
> could then browse through paper cards, put notes about the contact,
> dates when I called the contact and what the contact responded, so
> this way I could follow up communication with people and I could even
> assign assistants to call with me, they would just go through the
> cards and keep calling to make sales.
> 
> Hyperbole with HyRolo I consider and use as temporary storage of
> information for those situations when I am on different device, and
> need to call or contact people and temporarily store information until
> it gets ordered into the main database. It is available on every
> device, and simple enough to be learned by employees as well.
> 
> And I also enjoy the kindness of the author and others on this mailing
> list.
> 
> I would have some suggestions:
> 
> - I would keep Hide Hyrolo Google Contacts Flag: off by default,
>  regardless if user has google contacts package or not, I did not try
>  it, I only see it as privacy issue, as computer should not be
>  contacting remote servers if user is not aware of it. This may be
>  good feature for somebody, for me is contrary to the concept of
>  keeping contacts on my computer that I need to contact remote
>  computers.
> 
> - then I would suggest that functions are prepared, that can be
>  customized, so that other functions can use them. For example, if
>  one would like to send SMS to contact, there would be customization
>  for Send SMS Function, then user could enter `termux-send-sms' for
>  example, and then user could decide to send SMS to phone number by
>  pressing for example "s" and there would be minibuffer, and after
>  entering, SMS could be sent. User's function would receive the phone
>  number. Text would be asked from.
> 
>  Similar could be made for "Initiate Call Function", then user could
>  provide function such as "termux-initiate-call" and then the
>  function could receive full name or first part of the name and phone
>  number. User's function could then initiate the call.
> 
>  Same could be done for the Fax number or "Send Fax Function". In
>  some countries every company has a fax number and faxes are used
>  often today. It is manner of communicating easier. I am sending my
>  faxes from Emacs straight, I can write a text and send a fax, and I
>  use sometimes remote providers with email to fax, for example if
>  number is 222, I would send it to 222@example-fax-provider.com and
>  fax would eventually arrive, or I would use the built-in computer
>  modem to send the fax. There are phones with fax modem built in, I
>  can connect computer to the phone and use my phone to send fax.
> 
>  As what we do with all the numbers? We call, we send text, we send
>  faxes to those numbers, right?
> 
> Jean
>