Re: Octave and cargo cult programmingHello

[Sergei Steshenko]

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> From: Judd Storrs <address@hidden>
>To: Michael Goffioul <address@hidden> 
>Cc: "address@hidden" <address@hidden> 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:24 PM
>Subject: Re: Octave and cargo cult programmingHello
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>On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Michael Goffioul <address@hidden> wrote:
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>Positive criticism is always welcome. But this is not the case here. And you 
>can also see that it's actually completely ignored by the main octave 
>developers.
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>I agree that Serge might be better received if he sugar coated his complaints 
>with positive criticism. But on the other hand, Serge is a long time user of 
>octave and he is clearly venting a specific frustration here. IMHO at the core 
>Serge is experiencing frustration with debugging after broadcasting. It's 
>reasonable to assume that others might be having similar struggles (as I 
>mentioned earlier, I love broadcasting but I have had similar experiences and 
>I can relate--but I feel the core of the frustration isn't "broadcasting" 
>rather it's that the warning messages don't leave breadcrumbs to help you 
>track back into the code so you end up microanalyzing everything line-by-line 
>for size()). Now, we can choose to dismiss his experience based on his tone 
>(and perhaps all Serge was doing is venting) or we can try to figure out 
>what's behind this. Serge is a long time user and he's opinionated, but he is 
>a dedicated user and he contributes to the help
 mailing list.
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>--judd
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Sergei is rather expressing frustration with Octave's development going in 
_strategically_ wrong direction; broadcasting and its stupid (without line 
number) warning messages being a clear indication of that direction.

To me Octave development looks convulsive; introduction of broadcasting is just 
a convulsion example.

Maybe I'll write an Email on Intel <-> IBM, Intel <-> AMD competition and on 
lessons that can be learned from it and how they can be applied to Octave 
development.

Regards,
  Sergei.