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Re: Criticisms of my "tone" (was Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that re


From: Pjotr Prins
Subject: Re: Criticisms of my "tone" (was Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 22:24:39 +0200
User-agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2)

Dear Leo,

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 01:55:25PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote:
> You should have sent a message that explained the problem and tried to
> teach the solution. I've seen you do it many times before; 

That is perhaps fair comment. It is always best to be constructive and
not too personal. The latter is probably what rubs people the wrong
way, especially in public. Good advice, in other words.

Going by my experience in Guix - if we were to meet personally we
would all be impressed by each other, that includes the other Leo and
Mark. I think Guix developers are special and all have made
interesting journeys to get here. Lisp is an great filter. I wonder
how we end up with more Leos than Marks, however ;)

But let me defend Mark here (a little). I'll only do this once. I
don't think it was malicious even if it did not look nice. Truth is we
should also try to look a little beyond the surface.  The intention
matters. What I read was exasperation.

But really, partly to prevent character assassination, I think that if
anyone crosses a line the accuser should use our complaints channels.
That is what they are for. We should not accuse each other about
behaviour in a public channel. Mostly because it is very hard to
defend oneself against opinion (of a majority). 

Pj.




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