Re: Changing gui->AppKit, base->Foundation... etc...

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi,
> I agree with all the discussions and proposals how to improve the Web page and 
> that it is more important
> than the names (or changing them).
>
> IMHO the root problem is that we discuss it approx. twice a year, but do not 
> find a small (sub) team who
> really takes care of it, grabs proposals and complaints, makes a draft for 
> further discussion and finally makes it public.
>
> But we just place proposals here in this list instead of touching the HTML 
> code...
>
> Now before someone asks the standard question: why are you not volunteering?
>
> It is the same reason that I think we all have - it is not attractive enough, 
> and distracts from the
> more interesting code hacks. It is easier to make proposals than logging into 
> the Wiki and editing the page...
>
> I.e. we may need a subproject "GNUstep-web-presence" with bug tracker, 
> milestones, release schedule etc.
> With severals people contributing.
>
>    
well, last time I made some small changes, too little I admit. SOme 
changes that were agreed on last time (even in our small LindauSTEP 
meeting) were of course challenged now. But even back then not anybody 
agreed.
It is too easy to make a "scape goat" forget how many small pieces fit 
together. Our public appearance is done not only by the website, but by 
our Wiki, by our releases, by our Mailing list (and the answer we give 
or not give to newcomers), by our IRC channel, by our actual code, by 
the packages... It is even given by things we do not have, like a forum, 
an up-to-date liveCD, you tube tutorials... etc etc

By reading the discussion and rechecking the website, I think that our 
worst part is actually the Wiki and not the webpage itself.
Due to the collaborative nature of the wiki it is full of inconsistent 
information, obsolete data... which generated confusion.
Since the Wiki is tightly linked in our website, it is an important 
resource. I think it is also correct that the webpage changes and 
updates slowly.

Riccardo