Re: [GNUnet-developers] website and logo rework

[amirouche]

He current logo seems old.

If the gnu is required then I propose to use guix' gnu.

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De : "Schanzenbach, Martin" <address@hidden>

Date : 26/01/2018 08:03 (GMT+01:00)

À : amirouche <address@hidden>

Cc : Gnunet Developers <address@hidden>

Objet : Re: [GNUnet-developers] website and logo rework

Hi,

> On 26. Jan 2018, at 01:07, amirouche <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> Héllo,
> 
> 
> I got into creating a new logo for gnunet and work on the new gnunet website.

Any reason for that? I quite like the current logo. It represents the name very well (A GNU on a net).
Maybe it could be modernised in some way, though.

> 
> I did not study a lot the current website and based the mockup on what is in
> the www.git repository @ https://gnunet.org/git/www.git/
> 
> My first impression is that the learning curve is rather steep, because it's
> start in the first paragraph with various acronyms that I don't know myself.
> 
> The introduction goes into deteails of what and how Internet is broken.
> Starting up with the Internet is broken is not very positive and most likely
> people coming to the website already know that.
> 
> We should first deliver a short explanation of the guiding principles of the
> gnunet stack (or framework?). I think about: ethical, energy efficient, secure
> and anonymous. Maybe that must be the headline. Maybe:
> 
> ethical Internet
> 
> is enough.
> 
> Let's be creative, the current headline seems like a buzz word bingo
> parade:
> 
> Decentralized, Secure, Privacy-preserving, Distributed Application Framework
> 
> ipfs use the following:
> 
> IPFS is the distributed web.
> 
> That is a bit strong and surf on the _web_ frenzy. A misleading statement.
> Serving static files over the network is an old trick.
> 
> I think we should focus on delivring a short explanation for three kinds of
> potentially interested users.
> 
> - end users: What are gnunet-based applications? What are the advantages
> of using gnunet compared to other approaches in particular the blockchain,
> ipfs and bittorrent (e.g. gnunet offers the possibility to stay anonymous
> which avoids the need to use vpn (which is not really anonymous) and that
> gnunet offers better performance than tor (which has known issues)).
> 
> AFAIK this section will be empty without gnunet-gtk and gnu taler.

Not necessarily. GNS might be a user application and an alternative to e.g. DynDNS.
(Admins are also users). Especially when combined with VPN.

> 
> - developpers: What are the advantages of using gnunet? What are the distinctive
> features of gnunet? What are the available bindings? What is their status?
> Explain in layman terms that most the regular network stack is replaced
> by a secure version. Explai from top to bottom (I think it's easier
> to understand but I am just a webdev) what are the different services.
> 
> - researcher: explain that gnunet is based on several research papers and
> that it was published in various places, link to the bibliography.
> 
> How someone should cite gnunet if they use it in their work? bibtex?
> 
> I replaced the term 'stack' with 'framework' in the headline, is it ok?

I actually agree that with what you said above that it should say something like "GNU's Ethical Internet"

> 
> logos and mockup at https://imgur.com/a/ZOjNU
> 
> I attached the svg source.
> 
> WDYT?

As I already said I like the current logo. Especially since it can be used without text.
What we might want is a more "hip" style (harder corners, more fuzzy, etc).
But in the end, any change would likely make it worse.

Thank you for the work and ideas!
- Martin

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