So where exactly is Hurd in development? I checked and it seems to be available in x86 but not x64. What would it take for one or more people to get it up to date with the latest hardware?
With linux-libre one is still beholden to the decisions of those in control of the upstream linux project. In the past, during the 90s and first half-decade of the 2000s these were hackers, who had self-agency, and thus could be trusted to atleast do what is best for programmer-users such as themselves. What they had was their pride as a hacker: and the credibility attached to their handle.
Today the hackers are gone; shut out. Even linus has been "canceled", and has been brought to heel. Those who are in control of the code are hirelings, who do not have agency of their own, donated by various corporate entities, who answer not to their own conscience but to their paymaster. The deal gets worse every day.
There is even DRM (yes that DRM) going into Linux now.
[Other Note: why is my CC line: address@hidden, gnu-system-discuss <gnu-system-discuss-bounces+nipponmail=address@hidden> , isn't one gnu-system-discuss enough?]
On 2019-11-12 08:53, Jean Louis wrote:
* Alexander Vdolainen <address@hidden> [2019-11-12 14:14]:
however, if we're going to speak about GNU system we're limited with a few
components:
- GNU userland - ok it exists
- GNU toolchain - yep it works
- GNU kernel/system services - ... nope
I know linux kernel just works, but it's not a GNU project.
Software need not be GNU project to be part of GNU. A purely GNU
system includes, by definition, non-GNU packages:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/2019-11/msg00356.html
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html
Quote from GNU Manifesto:
"When the kernel and compiler are finished, it will be possible to
distribute a GNU system suitable for program development. We will use
TeX as our text formatter, but an nroff is being worked on. We will
use the free, portable X Window System as well."
GNU/Linux-libre is GNU project. Please see:
https://www.gnu.org/s/linux-libre
Thus GNU has the kernel Linux-libre, and Hurd, and other kernels could
become GNU project.
GNU system was not envisioned to be purely GNU system from its
inception.
Jean