Re: [Gdbheads] Trust

[Michael Snyder]

Stan Shebs wrote:
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
>
> > Stan,
> > Except for this paragraph, I was shaking my head in agreement over your
> > message.  I hemmed and hawed about responding but I can't let the slurs
> > to Red Hat management go without remark.
> Heh, forgot there were managers reading this. I still miss the oldest
> days of Usenet; before managers discovered it, we could say what we
> liked about them... :-)

Nuisance, isn't it?   ;-)

> > I think you know and have worked with everyone in Red Hat management.
> > I'm not sure who you think is doing the lying.
> The bad Cygnus managers I know about are long gone, and those are the
> only ones for which I have firsthand knowledge. From my point of view,
> they were lying; based on discussions with acquaintances in business,
> a lot of what goes on is apparently considered normal. Or to use a
> current phrase, they would "emphasize some things, and deemphasize
> other things". :-)

I know what you mean, and believe it or not, I'm much less aware
of that kind of thing now than I was when we were Cygnus.  Still,
I think you have to distinguish "business ethics" from "lying",
at least in the context of this conversation, because there has
been some intimation here that this rebellion was somehow fomented
by Red Hat management in an effort to wrest control of gdb away
from the FSF.  That simply is not true -- not even a little bit.
*That* kind of lying is not happening here, at all.


> For current Red Hat I can only surmise, but it's really really
> unusual to have bad blood between employees spill out into a
> multiple-month dispute visible outside Red Hat. Not the kind of
> thing us large stockowners like to see happening with our investment!

I'm a stockholder too, though not on your level, and I see no
benefit to anybody in tying this imbroglio to Red Hat.  What's
happening here is a gdb conflict -- not a Red Hat conflict.
It just happens that some of the key players on both sides
work for the same employer.

As I've pointed out before, half of the disaffected
do not work for Red Hat.