Re: [O] org-ref in action

[Grant Rettke]

Thanks for your answer on that everybody.

My apologies for my poor grammar asking where "people discuss such
questions in real life". What I really had wanted to say, what I
meant, was that I was wondering what professions utilize such
workflows and where they discuss it primarily because the topic does
go beyond LaTeX alone. My usage of such a workflow is pretty
lightweight, and I've never had anyone to talk to about it because in
my field generally no one cites their references.
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Matt Lundin <address@hidden> wrote:
> Grant Rettke <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Matt Lundin <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> I think the key in any possible feature merge is to remember citation
>>> management is idiosyncratic.
>>
>> Off topic:
>>
>> How do people choose today?
>>
>> Why choose bibtex over biblatex?
>
> Thanks to inertia, bibtex still has a number of users in the sciences,
> since it was originally designed for scientific citations. In the
> humanities, however, bibtex is a non-starter, since biblatex offers much
> more flexibility. The good news is that bibtex and biblatex use the same
> database format, so it's easy to transition from bibtex to biblatex.
> However, there are other options, such as CSL.[1]
>
>> Where do people discuss such questions like this in real life?
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question. Could you clarify?
>
> I simply meant that everyone will have a different workflow/system for
> storing and managing citations. E.g., some will prefer to store
> bibliographical data in a zotero database, others in a single bib file,
> others in multiple bib files, others as properties in org headlines,
> etc.
>
> I think one can make a conception distinction here between citation
> management (i.e., how one stores bibliographical data) and citation
> processing (i.e., the software one uses to export that data to some
> output format). There are many, many formats (mods, bib, etc.) and tools
> (biber, bibtex, csl/citeproc, etc.) for formatting bibliographical data.
>
> In an ideal world, one should be able to 1) process bibliographical data
> from multiple formats; 2) choose from hundreds of citation styles; and
> 3) format citations for multiple backends. I am not suggesting that
> org-mode should directly support all these things, but its default
> methods of handling citations should not get in the way of using
> external tools that provide such flexibility.
>
> For instance, pandoc (an immensely impressive piece of software!)
> accepts bibliographical data from numerous sources and processes it for
> multiple outputs (html, plain text, docx, rtf, etc.). By contrast,
> ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is pretty much
> limited to the "old-fashioned" bibtex formats. Ironically, ox-bibtex.el
> invokes pandoc to convert from html to plain text, but only after it has
> already used bibtex2html to process the data.
>
> Best,
> Matt
>
> Footnotes:
>
> [1] Citation Style Language - http://citationstyles.org/