Re: [O] org-ref in action

[Eric Schulte]

John Kitchin <address@hidden> writes:

> Some features could be merged, but there is an important difference in that
> org-ref uses bibtex as the backend database, and reftex for searching, and
> org-bibtex uses org-mode headings as the backend database, and tag/property
> searches (I think).  It is like the difference between org-contacts and
> bbdb. They both serve similar needs, but with different data sources, and
> different ways to think about it.
>
> We might be able to figure out a way to specify a "backend" that would
> allow the independent features to work in both though.
>

I wonder what the API would look like.  The following functions comes to
my mind.  I'm not sure if there would be much more for org-ref...
- jump location for citation by ID
- return bibtex information for citation by ID
- validate citation

With those functions I imagine that a good deal of higher-level code
could be shared in a backend agnostic way.  Including,
- jump to citations
- provide information on citations
- collect citations during publishing (possibly automatically create the bib 
file)

If merging makes sense that's great, but if not then there's certainly
no harm in a diverse ecosystem of org tools supporting different work
flows and backend tools.

Best,
Eric

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>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Fabrice Popineau <
> address@hidden> wrote:
>
>>
>> +1 for org-bibtex (and ox-bibtex) that I'm using for a couple of years.
>>
>> But org-ref seems to go further (video is convincing).
>> It would be really nice to merge org-ref and org-bibtex before they split
>> too far apart.
>> Wishful thinking from me because I don't see that I'm in position to do it.
>>
>> Fabrice
>>
>>
>> 2014-06-26 3:10 GMT+02:00 Matt Lundin <address@hidden>:
>>
>> Eric Schulte <address@hidden> writes:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > This is a lot of useful functionality, and very nicely presented.
>>> >
>>> > Did you happen to try the built in bibtex support in Org-mode core and
>>> > contrib?  And if so, is there a reason that you implemented this all
>>> > independently?
>>> >
>>> > I think part of the problem with existing Org-mode bibtex support is
>>> > that no-one knows it exists.
>>>
>>> Well, you can count on one big fan of org-bibtex.el here! (Though I must
>>> admit that I have not used ox-bibtex.el.)
>>>
>>> > To help address this I threw up a very quick-and-dirty screen cast
>>> > demonstrating some of Org's existing bibtex functionality.
>>> >
>>> > https://vimeo.com/99167082
>>>
>>> Thanks! Over the years, I've particularly appreciated the way
>>> org-bibtex.el makes it easy to keep bib data together with notes/todos.
>>> Both org-bibtex-read and org-bibtex-yank have become indispensable to my
>>> own workflow.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>
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