Re: [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in, opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove]

[Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide]

Madhu <enometh@meer.net> writes:

> * Drew Adams 
> <SJ0PR10MB54880D01DCA0FCB66755CB81F3CB2@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
>  :
> Wrote on Sun, 23 Jun 2024 21:12:34 +0000:
>>> >> Opt-out collection of anonymous metrics has been an industry standard
>>> >> for many years now.
>>> > Whatever "industry standard" means. Industry standard is
>>> > surveillance capitalism these days. Not something to strive
>>> > for, not in free software's context, I think.
>>> Yup, I'd be happy to see some kind of statistics-gathering system
>>> included in Emacs if it can help us decide how to evolve the projects
>>> and its default settings, but it definitely needs to be opt-in: Emacs
>>> should never contact a host without the user "explicitly" requesting it
>>> (there's some wiggle room about what "explicitly" can mean, admittedly,
>>> but in terms of sending telemetry it's pretty clear to me that it needs
>>> to be opt-in).
>>
>> It's also possible to just ask users - poll them,
>> as RMS often suggests.
>
> But with telemetry there is data which can be passed-off as non-biased
> and international investors can control the development of emacs based
> on the numbers (backed by solid evidence)

That is a strong argument against telemetry.
And a beautiful take-down of the industry standard on surveillance.

I guess that’s how you intended it :-)

Best wishes,
Arne

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