Re: "Why is emacs so square?"

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Clément Pit-Claudel <address@hidden>
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:05:15 -0400
> 
> > I don't think I follow.  Where can I find this "GNOME theme"?  It's
> > not part of the Emacs release tarball, is it?
> 
> It's shipped by GNU/Linux distributions, typically.

Any chance of getting a URL that I could explore?

> > What exactly do you mean by "icons follow the theme"? how does a theme
> > affect icons?
> 
> In GTK builds (the default in Debian, and probably others), the toolbar uses 
> icons from the current GTK icon theme.  I believe this is done in 
> update_frame_tool_bar in gtkutil.c.

Then I don't understand the complaint.  The icons that don't change
are our private icons that aren't taken from GTK.  So how can they
"follow the theme", if they are absent there?

> >> Perhaps the solution, at least for the GTK builds, would be to find the 
> >> standard icons (more concretely, icon names) that can be used for these 
> >> buttons
> 
> > AFAIR, last time we made such an effort, we indeed took icons from GTK
> > or GNOME or from some similar collection.  But that was a long time
> > ago, and in particular the two rightmost icons you see in Message mode
> > were not part of that set, they were added by someone later.
> 
> It should be enough to change the name of the icons on the toolbar. No need 
> to take icons from GTK (if that means copying files into the Emacs repo).

That would only help GTK users.  I thought we wanted to improve the
Emacs appearance on more than just one toolkit, especially since that
toolkit is troubled and many users avoid building with it for that
reason.