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From: | Joe Wilkinson |
Subject: | Re: multiple chords over a single note |
Date: | Mon, 9 Mar 2020 17:19:59 +0000 |
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As a regular user may I intervene?
From experience I have found that attaching chord Symbols
to notes is a hiding to nothing. It is time consuming to edit.
Depending on your level of understanding of the notes in chord
(triads) it is easiest to set up a separate chord staff and put in
the chord root notes. You can give the notes in the chord staff
the duration you wish adding the extra notes using the
Alt-notename method. Major chords only need the root note. If you
must have an inversion there is a command for that. If you wish a
chord on, say the second beat of a bar, use a "Hidden" rest or
Spacer, or else you will get N.C for a proper rest. Then you get
the chord names in the right place in the bar.
If you want two sets of chords, e.g one with its notes
transposed, e.g with a guitar capo 3, add a third staff, make it a
chord staff AND a mirror of the other chord staff, and set it to
transpose on print. I can't find a way to prefix the line of
chords with Capo 3 unless I annotate the Music staff somewhere and
drag the Capo 3 into place in the Typescript window. A pain but I
can live with an extraneous Capo 3 above the music. So this
can result in
The denemo file is attached for your edification! I'm not sure it
passes muster as real music though.
Joe Wilkinson
I should have mentioned that there is a section in the manual (Help-Browse Manual) covering this topic:Entering Chord Symbols↓ There are two quite different ways to enter chord symbols (also known as Chord Names↓, Fake Chords). If the chord changes do not happen mid- way through notes then you can use Notes/Rests->Markings->Chord Symbols to attach chord symbols to the notes themselves. A brief summary is given by right clicking the option. The conventions are described in the LilyPond documentation. An alternative is to set a staff to display not the chords in regular notation but the chord symbol that represents the chord. Create a staff and use Staff->Staff Properties->Chord Symbols. Then this case you enter actual chords which will be displayed as Chord Symbols. The duration of the chords will determine the positioning, enabling chord changes mid-note. The chord symbols can then be arranged above or below the melody or other representation of the piece using Staffs->Swap Staffs or creating a custom layout in the Score Layout window. A palette is available4.5↑ for inserting chords, with this palette selected the key sequence pm7<Enter>, for instance, will insert/append a c, e-flat, g, b-flat chord if the cursor height is on a C, (or c- sharp, e, g-sharp, b if there is a pending sharp↓). Chord Charts can also be created – there is a Chord Charts palette for these. Compact chord charts require a patch to LilyPond – enquire on the mailing list for this. Richard On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 08:30 +0000, Richard Shann wrote:On Sun, 2020-03-08 at 20:13 -0400, Bric wrote:Hello, Denemo lets me "attach" chord symbols to specific, discrete notes.I think you are referring to this: Command: Edit Chord Symbols Allows chord symbols to be added to the current note. E.G.cis:dim7 for c-sharp diminished 7th. See Lilypond docs for notation Location: Object Menu ▶ Notes/Rests ▶ Markings ▶ Chords Symbols Internal Name: EditChordsI asked the lilypond crew how to engrave multiple chord symbols over and extended-duration note spanning, say, a whole measure. Example: a whole note extending the full 4/4 measure, with two chord symbols positioned within the measure - the first at the beginning of the measure, the second about half-way. Attaching an illustration of what i'm after. Is there any way to achieve this on the level of denemo controls, rather than having to export denemo to lilypond and edit the "\chordmode { ... } block in lilypond ?Yes, there is. Instead of attaching chord symbols to notes use a chord symbol staff, where you can put as many chord symbols as you want for durations of your choice. Command: Chord Symbols (Off/On) Typesets the music on this staff as chord symbols (off/on). Location: Object Menu ▶ Staffs/Voices ▶ Staff Properties Internal Name: ChordStaff There is an example - use Command: Open Example Start a new score from a built-in example Location: Main Menu ▶ File ▶ Open Internal Name: OpenExample and choose LeadSheet.denemo In bar 8 there are two chords to the final syllable of "chose". (the other method you can see used in LeadSheetNamedChordSymbols.denemo where you see in bar 8 that you *can* do splitting a note but it is more limited, you can't control the exact timing). HTH Richard
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