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Re: [Denemo-devel] New Binaries?


From: Richard Shann
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] New Binaries?
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:44:51 +0100

On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 08:44 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> Lilypond did not work for me in Windows Xp.
I know of an XP machine I could test on, but it may take a while.
>  If I changed the prefs to point to the official lilypond directory,
> everything went fine. Can you confirm for me that you prefs are truly
> pointing at the denemo distributed lilypond? 
I just checked in the Denemo rc file, and in any case I
deleted .denemo-1.2.3 before running it. But the real killer check is to
run it at the local library, whose machines have never seen Denemo or
LilyPond. I haven't had a chance to do this with your binary. I have two
or three people who will be testing though.
> 
> 
> The install .exe needs to be tested. 

I've just tested this on windows vista, everything was ok except for a
segfault on exit, occurring in close_gui_with_check() (no debugging
symbols are available).

> I don't have darwin packaged up yet. In gub I get stuck compiling
> glib. There is no binary of glib, gtk and friends on the gtk website.
> I have compiled denemo natively in darwin and can create a bundle
> based on it. The only problem is that the fonts don't show in the left
> side panel It is the ugly [].
The "side panel" is, in fact three palettes packed in there, which
anyone doing more than playing with the mouse will want to delete. But
this won't be the only place the Denemo font is being used - it is used
in many, many places. The purpose is so to be able to write sentences
using embedded characters for crotchets/quarter notes/rests etc so that
they are understood by everyone, even those with rudimentary English.

>  If we can't fix this font issue,
>  can we write code to minimize or hide this left side panel.
That would be easy enough - the palettes are entirely configurable -
but, as I say, the problem is much more pervasive. We didn't create
those Denemo caricatures of the 1/4 note etc for nothing. In a standard
font the 1/4 note and 1/2 note glyphs are very difficult to distinguish
if they are included in a piece of text (as in "Change a 𝅘𝅥 to a 𝅗𝅥")


>  Is there an option for that that I do not know about?

I would guess what's needed is some sort of font-install thing for the
mac, like we have for windows ... but I guess what is puzzling is that
this issue should arise now - nothing has changed around fonts for
several releases...

Richard


>  Everything else looks good.  
> 
> 
> Jeremiah      
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Richard Shann
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>         ... and with the mingw zip file of the 10th June
>         
>         http://denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-mingw-0.0.0.zip
>         
>         you appear to have it working out of the box. I tested a bunch
>         of
>         things, including MIDI input, and found nothing that failed.
>         This is
>         with a Windows Vista laptop.
>         
>         Richard
>         
>         
>         
>         On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 18:00 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
>         > I expect you know all about this, but I noticed another
>         mingw zip file
>         > from today (9th Jun) and it has a working LilyPond, only the
>         compiled
>         > schemas file was missing, which I copied in as before, then
>         everything I
>         > tested worked - including the latest graphical interface to
>         the
>         > braces :)
>         >
>         > Richard
>         >
>         > On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 13:51 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Richard Shann
>         > > <address@hidden> wrote:
>         > >         Further testing: on trying to launch the file
>         chooser this new
>         > >         version
>         > >         crashes with the attached message. The error seems
>         to be quite
>         > >         common -
>         > >         some GTK3 thing requiring a file called
>         gschemas.compiled to
>         > >         be created
>         > >         and installed.
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > I see this file is supposed to be generated at runtime. We
>         can put it
>         > > in the .bat file. I am not sure what we have to do with
>         the installed
>         > > version.
>         > >
>         
> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/gstreamer-sdk/data/docs/latest/gio/glib-compile-schemas.html
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > Jeremiah
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >         I found (by chance) that this file *was* present
>         in the
>         > >         previous version of the zip file (under
>         > >         usr/share/glib2.0/schemas) and I
>         > >         copied from there to the same place in both the
>         zip
>         > >         installation and
>         > >         the .exe installation and in both cases the file
>         chooser came
>         > >         up ok.
>         > >
>         > >         Richard
>         > >
>         > >         On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 15:07 +0100, Richard Shann
>         wrote:
>         > >         > On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 10:59 -0500, Jeremiah
>         Benham wrote:
>         > >         > > I just compiled a new mingw binary for
>         testing.
>         > >         > >
>         > >         > Good news - the threading bug has indeed been
>         fixed. Windows
>         > >         can be
>         > >         > dragged around and re-sized once more - I
>         suspect this is
>         > >         going to fix
>         > >         > all those headaches with the Apple Mac too - it
>         too won't be
>         > >         using X11 I
>         > >         > guess.
>         > >         >
>         > >         > The zip file didn't contain the Denemo.bat file,
>         nor the
>         > >         regfont.exe in
>         > >         > the bin directory (I copied them from earlier
>         versions to
>         > >         test).
>         > >         >
>         > >         > More seriously, the LilyPond crashes. If
>         possible, we should
>         > >         wind the
>         > >         > clock back to the tools and libraries we used
>         when LilyPond
>         > >         was building
>         > >         > properly. If I recall correctly it was only an
>         upgrade to
>         > >         glib that we
>         > >         > needed for the newer threading functions ... we
>         then got
>         > >         drawn into
>         > >         > upgrading all sorts of stuff as we hit the
>         thread bug which
>         > >         have now
>         > >         > been fixed.
>         > >         > I suggest winding the clock back to get LilyPond
>         working
>         > >         only because I
>         > >         > gather that it is very tricky to get it to build
>         correctly -
>         > >         but you
>         > >         > know more about that than I do.
>         > >         >
>         > >         > I'm hopeful that we have now put behind us a lot
>         of sporadic
>         > >         problems
>         > >         > with threads, so I think this is really good
>         news.
>         > >         >
>         > >         > Richard
>         > >         >
>         > >         >
>         > >         >
>         > >         > > Jeremiah
>         > >         > >
>         > >         > > On May 29, 2015 4:06 PM, "Richard Shann"
>         > >         <address@hidden>
>         > >         > > wrote:
>         > >         > >         ... deeper still, it seems that two
>         other classes
>         > >         of call need
>         > >         > >         changing,
>         > >         > >         which I have done for gtk3 only from
>         denemo.h
>         > >         > >         So *now* I think I have got to the
>         bottom of this
>         > >         problem, and
>         > >         > >         the mingw
>         > >         > >         build should at last work correctly.
>         > >         > >
>         > >         > >         Richard
>         > >         > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >         > >         On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 19:52 +0100,
>         Richard Shann
>         > >         wrote:
>         > >         > >         > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 19:28 +0100,
>         Richard Shann
>         > >         wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > I've tracked down more of this
>         thread and it
>         > >         seems that
>         > >         > >         the fix (below)
>         > >         > >         > > was not the solution: it seems
>         that
>         > >         gdk_threads_init() is
>         > >         > >         deprecated and
>         > >         > >         > > should not be used.
>         > >         > >         >
>         > >         > >         > reading on deeper, the
>         gdk_threads_enter() and
>         > >         leave() are
>         > >         > >         apparently
>         > >         > >         > also dangerous and shouldn't be
>         there, again I
>         > >         have removed
>         > >         > >         them and
>         > >         > >         > tested on Debian and all seems well.
>         > >         > >         > So this too is now in git -
>         hopefully this is
>         > >         the last of
>         > >         > >         that bug.
>         > >         > >         >
>         > >         > >         > Richard
>         > >         > >         >
>         > >         > >         >
>         > >         > >         > >  I've just removed it and tested
>         on Debian and
>         > >         > >         > > everything seems fine. So
>         re-building from git
>         > >         may now
>         > >         > >         result in no more
>         > >         > >         > > crashes...
>         > >         > >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > Richard
>         > >         > >         > >
>         > >         > >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 18:28 +0100,
>         Richard
>         > >         Shann wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 18:10
>         +0100, Richard
>         > >         Shann wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > I think I have found a
>         description of our
>         > >         problem:
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >
>         https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/2012-July/msg00000.html
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > this guy even suggests a fix:
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >
>         
> 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
>         > >         > >         > > > > diff --git
>         a/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
>         > >         > >         b/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
>         > >         > >         > > > > index 2bc7c12..3505fe2 100644
>         > >         > >         > > > > ---
>         a/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
>         > >         > >         > > > > +++
>         b/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
>         > >         > >         > > > > @@ -3369,9 +3369,10 @@
>         gdk_event_dispatch
>         > >         (GSource
>         > >         > >          *source,
>         > >         > >         > > > >  {
>         > >         > >         > > > >    GdkEvent *event;
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > +
>         _gdk_win32_display_queue_events
>         > >         (_gdk_display);
>         > >         > >         > > > > +
>         > >         > >         > > > >    GDK_THREADS_ENTER ();
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > -
>         _gdk_win32_display_queue_events
>         > >         (_gdk_display);
>         > >         > >         > > > >    event = _gdk_event_unqueue
>         > >         (_gdk_display);
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > >    if (event)
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >
>         
> 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > Looking at
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk
>         > >         > >         +/tree/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > it would seem this patch has not
>         been
>         > >         adopted.
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > There is a comment just before
>         the assertion
>         > >         that fails
>         > >         > >         > > >  /* CRITICAL_SECTION is
>         reentrant, but
>         > >         SRWLock is not.
>         > >         > >         > > >    * Detect the deadlock that
>         would occur on
>         > >         later
>         > >         > >         Windows version.
>         > >         > >         > > >    */
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > Is it possible that this code is
>         only valid
>         > >         for windows
>         > >         > >         XP, that would
>         > >         > >         > > > seem incredible. I can test on
>         windows XP
>         > >         given a bit of
>         > >         > >         time, but
>         > >         > >         > > > surely they can't be just
>         ignoring the vast
>         > >         majority of
>         > >         > >         windows users???
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > Richard
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > which is moving the call to
>         > >         > >         _gdk_win32_display_queue_events()
>         outside of
>         > >         > >         > > > > the GDK_THREADS_ENTER ();
>         section.
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > The thread ends with Emanuele
>         Bassi
>         > >         sending him off to
>         > >         > >         the jungle of
>         > >         > >         > > > > gnome bug trackers ...
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > This report is nearly a year
>         old. Can it
>         > >         really be
>         > >         > >         broken so long?
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 09:34
>         -0500,
>         > >         Jeremiah Benham
>         > >         > >         wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > > I have built another one
>         based off the
>         > >         gtk win32
>         > >         > >         bundle but it also
>         > >         > >         > > > > > crashed when moving the
>         window. I don't
>         > >         know what
>         > >         > >         else to do here.
>         > >         > >         > > > > > Once you mentioned a native
>         windows tool
>         > >         that was
>         > >         > >         similar to mxe.
>         > >         > >         > > > > > Would it be easier to
>         natively compile
>         > >         it?
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > > Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > > On May 25, 2015 12:07 PM,
>         "Richard
>         > >         Shann"
>         > >         > >         <address@hidden>
>         > >         > >         > > > > > wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         On Sun, 2015-05-24
>         at 23:54
>         > >         -0500, Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         Benham wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         > I have found a
>         page on gtk's
>         > >         website that
>         > >         > >         has all the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         version numbers
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         > they recommend for
>         gtk3 and
>         > >         win32.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         That sounds
>         promising, let me
>         > >         know when
>         > >         > >         there is something to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         test.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >   I am going to
>         use this as a
>         > >         template and
>         > >         > >         rebuild. I did
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         retest and I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         > believe it worked
>         in vista but
>         > >         not in XP.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         Hmm, I was able to
>         drag the main
>         > >         display a
>         > >         > >         short distance
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         before it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         crashed on the last
>         version,
>         > >         instead of it
>         > >         > >         crashing straight
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         away.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         > Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         > On May 24, 2015
>         10:41 AM,
>         > >         "Richard Shann"
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>          <address@hidden>
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         > wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         I saw that
>         you have
>         > >         tried another
>         > >         > >         build dated 25th
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         May, so I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         tested
>         this
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         one too
>         from the zip
>         > >         version and
>         > >         > >         it still will not
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         allow any
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         window
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         re-size
>         nor run
>         > >         LilyPond. From all
>         > >         > >         I have read it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         would seem
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         likely
>         that
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         some
>         combination of
>         > >         library
>         > >         > >         versions and compiler
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         versions
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         will work,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         but I
>         don't know how
>         > >         to find out
>         > >         > >         which. Have you
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         been able to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         re-test
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         the one
>         that appeared
>         > >         to work on
>         > >         > >         windows vista?
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         On Fri,
>         2015-05-22 at
>         > >         08:47 -0500,
>         > >         > >         Jeremiah Benham
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         > On Fri,
>         May 22, 2015
>         > >         at 4:12 AM,
>         > >         > >         Richard Shann
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         <address@hidden> wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          On Thu,
>         > >         2015-05-21 at
>         > >         > >         15:26 -0500,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         Jeremiah Benham
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          > I created
>         > >         new mingw
>         > >         > >         binaries. This time
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         it is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         based on
>         gtk3.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          I've
>         > >         downloaded and
>         > >         > >         tested
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >
>          http://denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-mingw-0.0.0.zip
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          running
>         > >         Denemo.bat it
>         > >         > >         complains that
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         libaubio-4.dll
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         is not
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          found - I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          moved it
>         > >         from /lib
>         > >         > >         to /bin and the program
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         then
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         started
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          correctly.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         > Ok.
>         Thanks for
>         > >         letting me know.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          The good
>         > >         news is that
>         > >         > >         the fonts are now
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         found, and
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         the nice
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          gtk3
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          features are
>         > >         present.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          However,
>         > >         LilyPond
>         > >         > >         crashes while processing
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         a file
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         and Denemo
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          crashes the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          moment you
>         > >         try to
>         > >         > >         re-size a window, both
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         symptoms
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         exactly as
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          before.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          The crash
>         > >         when trying to
>         > >         > >         move or re-size a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         window
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         has
>         probably
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          not
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          changed
>         > >         because, despite
>         > >         > >         moving to gtk3 I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         guess that
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          version of
>         > >         glib
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          is
>         > >         unaltered?
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         > I used
>         2.43 for
>         > >         both. I will try
>         > >         > >         downgrading and
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         rebuilding.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          Whether this
>         > >         is related
>         > >         > >         to lilypond not
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         working I'm
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         not sure
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         > I will
>         upgrade it to
>         > >         2.18.2 or
>         > >         > >         whatever the latest
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         stable of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         lilypond.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          - the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          attached
>         > >         screenshot on
>         > >         > >         the blue background
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         is from
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         running
>         gdb
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          lilypond.exe
>         > >         on a file
>         > >         > >         called fbtest.ly
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         which
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         succeeds
>         in
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          earlier
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          versions of
>         > >         the denemo
>         > >         > >         installer. The
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         crash in this
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         case is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          reported in
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          a memory
>         > >         allocation
>         > >         > >         routine.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          So the most
>         > >         hopeful line
>         > >         > >         might be to look
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         at which
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         version of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          glib is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          involved in
>         > >         the last two
>         > >         > >         builds. I guess
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         there are
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         also lower
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          level
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          things
>         > >         (people talk
>         > >         > >         about pthreads and the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         compiler's
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >          libraries ...)
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          which could
>         > >         be giving us
>         > >         > >         the trouble.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          We could
>         > >         install a piece
>         > >         > >         of code at the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         start of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         main() in
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          Denemo that
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          - never
>         > >         executes the
>         > >         > >         rest of Denemo's
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          code. Then
>         > >         trying to
>         > >         > >         resize the window
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         should
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         confirm
>         that the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          bug is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          not
>         > >         connected with
>         > >         > >         Denemo's use of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         threads.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         > Could
>         also you try
>         > >         to resize the
>         > >         > >         dialog window
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         that asks you
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         if you
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         > want to
>         import your
>         > >         old prefs?
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         > I will
>         rebuild now.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         > Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          > Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          > On May 13,
>         > >         2015 6:51
>         > >         > >         AM, "Richard Shann"
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >          <address@hidden>
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          > wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         On
>         > >         Tue,
>         > >         > >         2015-05-12 at 15:40
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         -0500,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         Jeremiah
>         Benham
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         What do you
>         > >         > >         think is causing
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         the missing
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         don't
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          I've done some
>         > >         > >         gdb debugging on
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         the fonts
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         thing: I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          noticed
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          that one of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          the buttons in
>         > >         > >         the horizontal
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         palette, the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         one for
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          entering
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          notes in
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          chords *was*
>         > >         > >         showing the two
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         quarter notes
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         in the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          correct
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          font. Looking
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         at
>         > >         its label I
>         > >         > >         see that it uses
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         the gtk
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         markup
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          language to
>         > >         set
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          the font
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          explicitly,
>         > >         > >         where the other
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         palette
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         buttons
>         just
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          assume the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          font has
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          been set. The
>         > >         > >         menu items and
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         tooltips will
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         also just
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          assume
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          the font is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          set I think.
>         > >         > >         The call to set the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         default
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         font is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          towards the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          end of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          view.c
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >          gtk_settings_set_string_property
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         (settings,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >          "gtk-font-name",
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >          Denemo.prefs.fontspec->str,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         "denemo");
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          this appears
>         > >         > >         to be called twice
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         when
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         starting
>         the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          file, but
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          backtrace is
>         > >         > >         obscure. I tried
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         calling it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         again from
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          within gdb
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          but this
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          gives a crash
>         > >         > >         during the call,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         perhaps
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         because of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          not being in
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          the right
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          part of the
>         > >         > >         gtk_main loop. In
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         fact, mostly
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         this gdb
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          environment is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          obscure - the
>         > >         > >         symbol Denemo
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         (which should
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         be the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          root object
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         of
>         > >         all the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          Denemo data)
>         > >         > >         prints as 0, and
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         when trying
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         to access
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          Denemo.project
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          (which should
>         > >         > >         be the current
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         score) gdb
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         says
>         Denemo
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          is not a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          structure.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          The info
>         > >         > >         threads just lists a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         bunch of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         threads
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          in .dlls
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          (whereas our
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          threads now
>         > >         > >         have proper names).
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         So
>         > >         this fonts
>         > >         > >         problem is not to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         do with
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         failing to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          install
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          fonts, but
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          failing to
>         > >         > >         make gtk use the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         correct font
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         as the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          default.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         and the
>         > >         > >         crashing?
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          this happens
>         > >         > >         the instant you try
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         re-size a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          window. I
>         > >         found
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          out
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          something else
>         > >         > >         too - LilyPond is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         crashing,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         windows
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          throws up a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          window to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          say it has
>         > >         > >         stopped working,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         while denemo
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         itself
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          continues to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          work ok.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          I've run it
>         > >         > >         from the command
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         line and it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         gets as
>         far
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          as
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          "Preprocessing
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          graphical
>         > >         > >         objects" and then
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         complains
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         about
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >          std::bad_alloc()
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          Perhaps we
>         > >         > >         might have better
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         luck with
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         gtk3 - at
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          least they
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          are actively
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          working on
>         > >         > >         that.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         I am having
>         > >         > >         trouble creating
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         binaries
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         for
>         Darwin.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          I did
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          natively
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         compile
>         > >         > >         denemo on Darwin but
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         denemo.ttf
>         don't
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          is not
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          displaying on
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         the side or
>         > >         > >         in the menu.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         Everything else
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         seems
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          fine. This
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          was compiled
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         against
>         > >         > >         gtk3. I don't know if
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         problem
>         will be
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          gone if I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          use gtk2.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         What do you
>         > >         > >         recommend I do?
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          This seems to
>         > >         > >         be the failure to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         get gtk to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         take
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          notice of
>         > >         the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          desired
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          default font
>         > >         > >         that I've described
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         above.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         Apparently
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          there
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          are .ini type
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          files in which
>         > >         > >         the desired font
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         can be
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>          specified ...
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >
>         https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.8/GtkSettings.html
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         On May 11,
>         > >         > >         2015 9:44 AM,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         "Richard Shann"
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >          <address@hidden>
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         I
>         > >         > >         thought it might be
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         good to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         check the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          installer
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          version too
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         -
>         > >         > >         that
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          behaves similarly, no
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         fonts and
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         it works
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          until you
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          try a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          window re-size,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          which is instant
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         death.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         On
>         > >         > >         Wed, 2015-05-06 at
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         11:15
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         +0100,
>         Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          Shann
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > On
>         > >         > >         Tue, 2015-05-05
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         at 16:29
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         -0500,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          Jeremiah
>         > >         Benham
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         I upgraded gtk.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         Maybe this
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         will fix
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          the problem.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         I
>         > >         created
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         new
>         > >         > >         mingw
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         binaries.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         I've tested the zip
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         file
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         version -
>         it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          starts up
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          with the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          denemo.ttf font
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         not found, but notes
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         can be
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         entered.
>         Any
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          attempt
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         at
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          re-sizing a window
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         etc causes a crash.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>          Typesetting appears
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          to cause a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          crash in
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         the
>         > >         > >         lilypond
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         process started
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         (Denemo
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         carries on
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          working, but
>         > >         a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          microsoft
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          visual c++
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         runtime library
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         window pops up
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         to warn
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          of a crash,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          but it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          never gets
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         filled in - see
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         attachment).
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         On May 5, 2015
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         9:00 AM,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         "Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          Shann"
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         <address@hidden>
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         On Tue,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         2015-05-05
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         at 06:21
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          -0500,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         Benham
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         > I have
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         created the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         mingw
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          binaries. I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          will work
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         on
>         > >         > >         the others
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         today.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         I've
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         downloaded and
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         run the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          zip file
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          version -
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          unfortunately
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         it crashes
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         on
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         starting - it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         hangs the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          machine for
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          quite a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          while as it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         does this.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         ran it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         under gdb and
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         saw that
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          it seemed
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         to
>         > >         be some
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         sort
>         > >         > >         of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         thread
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         problem -
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         I turned
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         off the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          continuous
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          typesetting
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         (by
>         > >         > >         editing
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         the denemo
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         rc file)
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         and it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         started
>         ok. I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          could
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          enter a few
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          notes and they
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         sounded
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         on entry.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         When I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         tried to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          typeset in
>         > >         the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          Print
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         View
>         > >         > >         window it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         completely
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         hung the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         machine,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         requiring
>         a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          hard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          re-boot. This
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         is
>         > >         > >         on the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         Windows
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         Vista
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         laptop
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         that runs
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         1.2.2
>         without
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          problem.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         I did
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         another run,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         this time
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          without
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          trying
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          typesetting -
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         after a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         while
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         it froze
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         machine. I
>         found
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          that
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          ctrl-alt-del
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         gave
>         > >         > >         me access
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         to the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         machine
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         again and I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         was able
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          to take a
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          snapshot of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         the
>         > >         > >         gdb
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         console
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         which
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         I attach.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         It looks
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         like this
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          threading
>         > >         > >         problems
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          inside the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         gtk system
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         rather
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         than some
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         denemo
>         thread
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          problem
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         (I
>         > >         was just
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          changing
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         between
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         windows in
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         Denemo
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         when it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          crashed,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          rather than
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          initiating
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         playback,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         entering
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         notes etc -
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         that's no
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          guarantee, of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          course, but my
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         gut
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         feeling).
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         I think it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         would
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         help if we
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          could get
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          rid of the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         code
>         > >         > >         that
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         prompts
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         "Type
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         ENTER..."
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         - I know
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         you have
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          tried
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          before, but
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          evidently it is
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         still
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         there.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         > Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         > On May
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         1, 2015
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         10:25 AM,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          "Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          Shann"
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         <address@hidden>
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         > wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          On Fri,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         2015-05-01
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          at 09:42
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          -0500,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          Jeremiah Benham
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          > I now
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         have a gub
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          branch with
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          upgraded
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         glib
>         > >         > >         but I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         am stuck
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         on
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          nsis . I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          > could
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         create a
>         zip
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          version
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          now.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          That would
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         be
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          excellent -
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          people can try
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         it
>         > >         > >         out
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         without
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          committing
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         themselves.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          Is the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         nsis
>         problem
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          related to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          the new
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          glib?
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          > Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          > On Apr
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         29, 2015
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          8:20 AM,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          "Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          Benham"
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >          <address@hidden>
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >          I will
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          work on it.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         It
>         > >         may take
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         a
>         > >         > >         little
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         longer
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         than
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >          expected.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >          Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >          On Apr
>         29,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          2015 7:59
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          AM,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          "Richard Shann"
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         <address@hidden>
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         This seems
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         to
>         > >         be the
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          latest
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         version of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         glib:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >
>         https://developer.gnome.org/glib/glib-html-2.44.0.tar.gz
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         If
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          that will
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          work it
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          would be our
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         best bet
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          for bug
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         fixes.
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         On
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          Wed,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          2015-04-29 at
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          00:02 -0500,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         Jeremiah
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          Benham
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         wrote:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          I'm
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          getting this
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          error when
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         trying to
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          compile
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         for
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          mingw:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          building
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          package:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          mingw::denemo
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          *** Stage:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          download
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          (denemo,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         mingw)
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          *** Stage:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          untar
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          (denemo, mingw)
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          *** Stage:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          patch
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          (denemo, mingw)
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          *** Stage:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          autoupdate (denemo,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         mingw)
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          *** Stage:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          configure
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          (denemo,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         mingw)
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          *** Stage:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          compile
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          (denemo,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         mingw)
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          Command
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          barfed:
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >
>          cd 
> /home/jjbenham/public_html/gub/target/mingw/build/denemo-git.savannah.gnu.org--denemo.git-master
>  && make -j16
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          Tail of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         > >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         target/mingw/log/denemo.log
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >>>>>>>>
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         make[1]: ***
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          [all-recursive]
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         Error 1
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >         make[1]:
>         > >         > >         Leaving
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          directory
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
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>          >
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>         > >         > >         >         >
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>          >
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>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >
>          
> `/home/jjbenham/public_html/gub/target/mingw/build/denemo-git.savannah.gnu.org--denemo.git-master'
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
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>          >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >
>         > >
>          
> libaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-audiointerface.o):audiointerface.c:(.text+0x445):
>  undefined reference to `_g_thread_try_new'                                   
>                     
> libaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-audiointerface.o):audiointerface.c:(.text+0x8c5):
>  undefined reference to `_g_cond_wait_until'                                  
>                     
> libaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-dummybackend.o):dummybackend.c:(.text+0x68):
>  undefined reference to 
> `_g_cond_wait_untilibaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-audiointerface.o):audiointerface.c:(.text+0x445):
>  undefined reference to `_g_thread_try_new'                                   
>                     @
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          On Apr 28,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          2015
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >         >
>         > >         > >          12:34 PM,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         "Jeremiah
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >          Benham"
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>         <address@hidden>
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         wrote:
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>          >
>         > >          Apr 28,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         2015
>         > >         > >         7:06 AM,
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         "Richard
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
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>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >          Shann"
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >                  >
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>          >         >
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>          >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         - and I
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
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>          >
>         > >          >         >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
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>         > >         > >         early release of
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         1.2.4.
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>          >
>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         >         binaries
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>          >
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>         > >         > >         >         >
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>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
>         > >         > >         > > > > >
>         > >         > >
>          _______________________________________________
>         > >         > >         > > > > >         >         >
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>         > >          >         >
>         > >         > >         Denemo-devel mailing
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>         https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/denemo-devel
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