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Re: [Denemo-devel] New Binaries?


From: Richard Shann
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] New Binaries?
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 13:05:24 +0100

On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 09:47 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 17:45 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > Oh, and I also tested out setting the LilyPond path in the preferences
> > to the version installed in an earlier installation (I had just renamed
> > it rather than deleting it) and that then typeset just fine. Which means
> > we could just merge the components ... 
> 
> I thought I might test this idea out. I copied lilypond*.exe pdf*.exe
> and python*.exe from usr/bin of an old installed version that was
> working to the new zip file location and re-zipped the file. I've named
> this denemo-1.2.3.zip and I'm uploading it to denemo.org/~rshann right
> now.
> 
> The only problem I observed with it is that it crashes on exit. You
> wouldn't normally notice it, but it means it always offers to recover
> the last auto-saved version of your score (a new feature of 1.2.3). I'm
> not sure if this is a long-standing bug (crashing on exit on windows),
> but I'll see if I can understand it.

I've taken this zip file down to my local library and used it in a
windows 7 machine there. Everything I tested was working.
I was able to figure out what is happening on shut down - I think it
applies to all versions - it's trying to draw just after the score has
been destroyed (for the flashing cursor I would guess). I've pushed a
fix hopefully for that.
Andreas - can you build a package and run on Debian Jessie from the
latest git?


I'll create a denemo.pot file now with a view to the 1.2.4 release in a
couple of weeks. Stuart - any progress on the manual? It could be a good
time to move to a new major version as we now have a number of
long-standing issues out of the way (not just windows but mac as well I
suspect, and the newer GNU/Linux distros too).

Richard


> 
> Anyone with windows can test this without installing or disturbing
> anything - please report back.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > did you use pre-compiled binaries
> > for GTK in the latest build?
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 17:35 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > Further testing: on trying to launch the file chooser this new version
> > > crashes with the attached message. The error seems to be quite common -
> > > some GTK3 thing requiring a file called gschemas.compiled to be created
> > > and installed. I found (by chance) that this file *was* present in the
> > > previous version of the zip file (under usr/share/glib2.0/schemas) and I
> > > copied from there to the same place in both the zip installation and
> > > the .exe installation and in both cases the file chooser came up ok.
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 15:07 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 10:59 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> > > > > I just compiled a new mingw binary for testing.
> > > > > 
> > > > Good news - the threading bug has indeed been fixed. Windows can be
> > > > dragged around and re-sized once more - I suspect this is going to fix
> > > > all those headaches with the Apple Mac too - it too won't be using X11 I
> > > > guess.
> > > > 
> > > > The zip file didn't contain the Denemo.bat file, nor the regfont.exe in
> > > > the bin directory (I copied them from earlier versions to test).
> > > > 
> > > > More seriously, the LilyPond crashes. If possible, we should wind the
> > > > clock back to the tools and libraries we used when LilyPond was building
> > > > properly. If I recall correctly it was only an upgrade to glib that we
> > > > needed for the newer threading functions ... we then got drawn into
> > > > upgrading all sorts of stuff as we hit the thread bug which have now
> > > > been fixed.
> > > > I suggest winding the clock back to get LilyPond working only because I
> > > > gather that it is very tricky to get it to build correctly - but you
> > > > know more about that than I do.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm hopeful that we have now put behind us a lot of sporadic problems
> > > > with threads, so I think this is really good news.
> > > > 
> > > > Richard
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Jeremiah
> > > > > 
> > > > > On May 29, 2015 4:06 PM, "Richard Shann" <address@hidden>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >         ... deeper still, it seems that two other classes of call need
> > > > >         changing,
> > > > >         which I have done for gtk3 only from denemo.h
> > > > >         So *now* I think I have got to the bottom of this problem, and
> > > > >         the mingw
> > > > >         build should at last work correctly.
> > > > >         
> > > > >         Richard
> > > > >         
> > > > >         
> > > > >         On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 19:52 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > >         > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 19:28 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > >         > > I've tracked down more of this thread and it seems that
> > > > >         the fix (below)
> > > > >         > > was not the solution: it seems that gdk_threads_init() is
> > > > >         deprecated and
> > > > >         > > should not be used.
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > reading on deeper, the gdk_threads_enter() and leave() are
> > > > >         apparently
> > > > >         > also dangerous and shouldn't be there, again I have removed
> > > > >         them and
> > > > >         > tested on Debian and all seems well.
> > > > >         > So this too is now in git - hopefully this is the last of
> > > > >         that bug.
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > Richard
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > >  I've just removed it and tested on Debian and
> > > > >         > > everything seems fine. So re-building from git may now
> > > > >         result in no more
> > > > >         > > crashes...
> > > > >         > >
> > > > >         > > Richard
> > > > >         > >
> > > > >         > >
> > > > >         > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 18:28 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > >         > > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > I think I have found a description of our problem:
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         
> > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/2012-July/msg00000.html
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > this guy even suggests a fix:
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         
> > > > > 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
> > > > >         > > > > diff --git a/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > >         b/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > >         > > > > index 2bc7c12..3505fe2 100644
> > > > >         > > > > --- a/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > >         > > > > +++ b/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > >         > > > > @@ -3369,9 +3369,10 @@ gdk_event_dispatch (GSource
> > > > >          *source,
> > > > >         > > > >  {
> > > > >         > > > >    GdkEvent *event;
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > +  _gdk_win32_display_queue_events (_gdk_display);
> > > > >         > > > > +
> > > > >         > > > >    GDK_THREADS_ENTER ();
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > -  _gdk_win32_display_queue_events (_gdk_display);
> > > > >         > > > >    event = _gdk_event_unqueue (_gdk_display);
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > >    if (event)
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         
> > > > > 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > > Looking at
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk
> > > > >         +/tree/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > > it would seem this patch has not been adopted.
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > > There is a comment just before the assertion that fails
> > > > >         > > >  /* CRITICAL_SECTION is reentrant, but SRWLock is not.
> > > > >         > > >    * Detect the deadlock that would occur on later
> > > > >         Windows version.
> > > > >         > > >    */
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > > Is it possible that this code is only valid for windows
> > > > >         XP, that would
> > > > >         > > > seem incredible. I can test on windows XP given a bit of
> > > > >         time, but
> > > > >         > > > surely they can't be just ignoring the vast majority of
> > > > >         windows users???
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > > Richard
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > >
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > which is moving the call to
> > > > >         _gdk_win32_display_queue_events() outside of
> > > > >         > > > > the GDK_THREADS_ENTER (); section.
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > The thread ends with Emanuele Bassi sending him off to
> > > > >         the jungle of
> > > > >         > > > > gnome bug trackers ...
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > This report is nearly a year old. Can it really be
> > > > >         broken so long?
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > Richard
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 09:34 -0500, Jeremiah Benham
> > > > >         wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > > I have built another one based off the gtk win32
> > > > >         bundle but it also
> > > > >         > > > > > crashed when moving the window. I don't know what
> > > > >         else to do here.
> > > > >         > > > > > Once you mentioned a native windows tool that was
> > > > >         similar to mxe.
> > > > >         > > > > > Would it be easier to natively compile it?
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > > Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > > On May 25, 2015 12:07 PM, "Richard Shann"
> > > > >         <address@hidden>
> > > > >         > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         On Sun, 2015-05-24 at 23:54 -0500, Jeremiah
> > > > >         Benham wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         > I have found a page on gtk's website that
> > > > >         has all the
> > > > >         > > > > >         version numbers
> > > > >         > > > > >         > they recommend for gtk3 and win32.
> > > > >         > > > > >         That sounds promising, let me know when
> > > > >         there is something to
> > > > >         > > > > >         test.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >   I am going to use this as a template and
> > > > >         rebuild. I did
> > > > >         > > > > >         retest and I
> > > > >         > > > > >         > believe it worked in vista but not in XP.
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         Hmm, I was able to drag the main display a
> > > > >         short distance
> > > > >         > > > > >         before it
> > > > >         > > > > >         crashed on the last version, instead of it
> > > > >         crashing straight
> > > > >         > > > > >         away.
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         > Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         > On May 24, 2015 10:41 AM, "Richard Shann"
> > > > >         > > > > >         <address@hidden>
> > > > >         > > > > >         > wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         I saw that you have tried another
> > > > >         build dated 25th
> > > > >         > > > > >         May, so I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         tested this
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         one too from the zip version and
> > > > >         it still will not
> > > > >         > > > > >         allow any
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         window
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         re-size nor run LilyPond. From all
> > > > >         I have read it
> > > > >         > > > > >         would seem
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         likely that
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         some combination of library
> > > > >         versions and compiler
> > > > >         > > > > >         versions
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         will work,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         but I don't know how to find out
> > > > >         which. Have you
> > > > >         > > > > >         been able to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         re-test
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         the one that appeared to work on
> > > > >         windows vista?
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         On Fri, 2015-05-22 at 08:47 -0500,
> > > > >         Jeremiah Benham
> > > > >         > > > > >         wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:12 AM,
> > > > >         Richard Shann
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         > <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         On Thu, 2015-05-21 at
> > > > >         15:26 -0500,
> > > > >         > > > > >         Jeremiah Benham
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         > I created new mingw
> > > > >         binaries. This time
> > > > >         > > > > >         it is
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         based on gtk3.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         I've downloaded and
> > > > >         tested
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > > http://denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-mingw-0.0.0.zip
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         running Denemo.bat it
> > > > >         complains that
> > > > >         > > > > >         libaubio-4.dll
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         is not
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         found - I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         moved it from /lib
> > > > >         to /bin and the program
> > > > >         > > > > >         then
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         started
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         correctly.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         > Ok. Thanks for letting me know.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         The good news is that
> > > > >         the fonts are now
> > > > >         > > > > >         found, and
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         the nice
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         gtk3
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         features are present.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         However, LilyPond
> > > > >         crashes while processing
> > > > >         > > > > >         a file
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         and Denemo
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         crashes the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         moment you try to
> > > > >         re-size a window, both
> > > > >         > > > > >         symptoms
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         exactly as
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         before.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         The crash when trying to
> > > > >         move or re-size a
> > > > >         > > > > >         window
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         has probably
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         not
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         changed because, despite
> > > > >         moving to gtk3 I
> > > > >         > > > > >         guess that
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         version of glib
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         is unaltered?
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         > I used 2.43 for both. I will try
> > > > >         downgrading and
> > > > >         > > > > >         rebuilding.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         Whether this is related
> > > > >         to lilypond not
> > > > >         > > > > >         working I'm
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         not sure
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         > I will upgrade it to 2.18.2 or
> > > > >         whatever the latest
> > > > >         > > > > >         stable of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         lilypond.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         - the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         attached screenshot on
> > > > >         the blue background
> > > > >         > > > > >         is from
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         running gdb
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         lilypond.exe on a file
> > > > >         called fbtest.ly
> > > > >         > > > > >         which
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         succeeds in
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         earlier
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         versions of the denemo
> > > > >         installer. The
> > > > >         > > > > >         crash in this
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         case is
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         reported in
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         a memory allocation
> > > > >         routine.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         So the most hopeful line
> > > > >         might be to look
> > > > >         > > > > >         at which
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         version of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         glib is
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         involved in the last two
> > > > >         builds. I guess
> > > > >         > > > > >         there are
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         also lower
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         level
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         things (people talk
> > > > >         about pthreads and the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         compiler's
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         libraries ...)
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         which could be giving us
> > > > >         the trouble.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         We could install a piece
> > > > >         of code at the
> > > > >         > > > > >         start of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         main() in
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         Denemo that
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         - never executes the
> > > > >         rest of Denemo's
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         code. Then trying to
> > > > >         resize the window
> > > > >         > > > > >         should
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         confirm that the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         bug is
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         not connected with
> > > > >         Denemo's use of
> > > > >         > > > > >         threads.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         > Could also you try to resize the
> > > > >         dialog window
> > > > >         > > > > >         that asks you
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         if you
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         > want to import your old prefs?
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         > I will rebuild now.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         > Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         > Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         > On May 13, 2015 6:51
> > > > >         AM, "Richard Shann"
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >          <address@hidden>
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         > wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         On Tue,
> > > > >         2015-05-12 at 15:40
> > > > >         > > > > >         -0500,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         Jeremiah Benham
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         > What do you
> > > > >         think is causing
> > > > >         > > > > >         the missing
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         don't
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         I've done some
> > > > >         gdb debugging on
> > > > >         > > > > >         the fonts
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         thing: I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         noticed
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         that one of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         the buttons in
> > > > >         the horizontal
> > > > >         > > > > >         palette, the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         one for
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         entering
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         notes in
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         chords *was*
> > > > >         showing the two
> > > > >         > > > > >         quarter notes
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         in the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         correct
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         font. Looking
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         at its label I
> > > > >         see that it uses
> > > > >         > > > > >         the gtk
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         markup
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         language to set
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         the font
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         explicitly,
> > > > >         where the other
> > > > >         > > > > >         palette
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         buttons just
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         assume the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         font has
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         been set. The
> > > > >         menu items and
> > > > >         > > > > >         tooltips will
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         also just
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         assume
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         the font is
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         set I think.
> > > > >         The call to set the
> > > > >         > > > > >         default
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         font is
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         towards the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         end of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         view.c
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >          gtk_settings_set_string_property
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         (settings,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         "gtk-font-name",
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >          Denemo.prefs.fontspec->str,
> > > > >         > > > > >         "denemo");
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         this appears
> > > > >         to be called twice
> > > > >         > > > > >         when
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         starting the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         file, but
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         backtrace is
> > > > >         obscure. I tried
> > > > >         > > > > >         calling it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         again from
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         within gdb
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         but this
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         gives a crash
> > > > >         during the call,
> > > > >         > > > > >         perhaps
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         because of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         not being in
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         the right
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         part of the
> > > > >         gtk_main loop. In
> > > > >         > > > > >         fact, mostly
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         this gdb
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         environment is
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         obscure - the
> > > > >         symbol Denemo
> > > > >         > > > > >         (which should
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         be the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         root object
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         of all the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         Denemo data)
> > > > >         prints as 0, and
> > > > >         > > > > >         when trying
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         to access
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         Denemo.project
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         (which should
> > > > >         be the current
> > > > >         > > > > >         score) gdb
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         says Denemo
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         is not a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         structure.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         The info
> > > > >         threads just lists a
> > > > >         > > > > >         bunch of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         threads
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         in .dlls
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         (whereas our
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         threads now
> > > > >         have proper names).
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         So this fonts
> > > > >         problem is not to
> > > > >         > > > > >         do with
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         failing to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         install
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         fonts, but
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         failing to
> > > > >         make gtk use the
> > > > >         > > > > >         correct font
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         as the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         default.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >  and the
> > > > >         crashing?
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         this happens
> > > > >         the instant you try
> > > > >         > > > > >         to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         re-size a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         window. I found
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         out
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         something else
> > > > >         too - LilyPond is
> > > > >         > > > > >         crashing,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         windows
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         throws up a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         window to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         say it has
> > > > >         stopped working,
> > > > >         > > > > >         while denemo
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         itself
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         continues to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         work ok.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         I've run it
> > > > >         from the command
> > > > >         > > > > >         line and it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         gets as far
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         as
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         "Preprocessing
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         graphical
> > > > >         objects" and then
> > > > >         > > > > >         complains
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         about
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         std::bad_alloc()
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         Perhaps we
> > > > >         might have better
> > > > >         > > > > >         luck with
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         gtk3 - at
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         least they
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         are actively
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         working on
> > > > >         that.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         > I am having
> > > > >         trouble creating
> > > > >         > > > > >         binaries
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         for Darwin.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         I did
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         natively
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         > compile
> > > > >         denemo on Darwin but
> > > > >         > > > > >         the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         denemo.ttf don't
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         is not
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         displaying on
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         > the side or
> > > > >         in the menu.
> > > > >         > > > > >         Everything else
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         seems
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         fine. This
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         was compiled
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         > against
> > > > >         gtk3. I don't know if
> > > > >         > > > > >         the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         problem will be
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         gone if I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         use gtk2.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         > What do you
> > > > >         recommend I do?
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         This seems to
> > > > >         be the failure to
> > > > >         > > > > >         get gtk to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         take
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         notice of the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         desired
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         default font
> > > > >         that I've described
> > > > >         > > > > >         above.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         Apparently
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         there
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         are .ini type
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         files in which
> > > > >         the desired font
> > > > >         > > > > >         can be
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         specified ...
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >         https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.8/GtkSettings.html
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         > Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         > On May 11,
> > > > >         2015 9:44 AM,
> > > > >         > > > > >         "Richard Shann"
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >          <address@hidden>
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         > wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         I
> > > > >         thought it might be
> > > > >         > > > > >         good to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         check the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         installer
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         version too
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         -
> > > > >         that
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          behaves similarly, no
> > > > >         > > > > >         fonts and
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         it works
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         until you
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         try a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          window re-size,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          which is instant
> > > > >         > > > > >         death.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         On
> > > > >         Wed, 2015-05-06 at
> > > > >         > > > > >         11:15
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         +0100, Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         Shann
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > On
> > > > >         Tue, 2015-05-05
> > > > >         > > > > >         at 16:29
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         -0500,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         Jeremiah Benham
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         I upgraded gtk.
> > > > >         > > > > >         Maybe this
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         will fix
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         the problem.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         I created
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         new
> > > > >         mingw
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         binaries.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         I've tested the zip
> > > > >         > > > > >         file
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         version - it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         starts up
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         with the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          denemo.ttf font
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         not found, but notes
> > > > >         > > > > >         can be
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         entered. Any
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         attempt
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         at
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          re-sizing a window
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         etc causes a crash.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         Typesetting appears
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         to cause a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         crash in
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         the
> > > > >         lilypond
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         process started
> > > > >         > > > > >         (Denemo
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         carries on
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         working, but a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         microsoft
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          visual c++
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         runtime library
> > > > >         > > > > >         window pops up
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         to warn
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         of a crash,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         but it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          never gets
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         filled in - see
> > > > >         > > > > >         attachment).
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         On May 5, 2015
> > > > >         > > > > >         9:00 AM,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         "Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         Shann"
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          <address@hidden>
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         On Tue,
> > > > >         > > > > >         2015-05-05
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         at 06:21
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         -0500,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         Jeremiah
> > > > >         Benham
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         > I have
> > > > >         > > > > >         created the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         mingw
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         binaries. I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         will work
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         on
> > > > >         the others
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         today.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         I've
> > > > >         > > > > >         downloaded and
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         run the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         zip file
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         version -
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          unfortunately
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         it crashes
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         on
> > > > >         > > > > >         starting - it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         hangs the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         machine for
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         quite a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          while as it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         does this.
> > > > >         > > > > >         I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         ran it
> > > > >         > > > > >         under gdb and
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         saw that
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         it seemed
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         to be some
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         sort
> > > > >         of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         thread
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         problem -
> > > > >         > > > > >         I turned
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         off the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         continuous
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         typesetting
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         (by
> > > > >         editing
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         the denemo
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         rc file)
> > > > >         > > > > >         and it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         started ok. I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         could
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         enter a few
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          notes and they
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         sounded
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         on entry.
> > > > >         > > > > >         When I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         tried to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         typeset in the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         Print
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         View
> > > > >         window it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         completely
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         hung the
> > > > >         > > > > >         machine,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         requiring a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         hard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         re-boot. This
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         is
> > > > >         on the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         Windows
> > > > >         > > > > >         Vista
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         laptop
> > > > >         > > > > >         that runs
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         1.2.2 without
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         problem.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         I did
> > > > >         > > > > >         another run,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         this time
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         without
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         trying
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          typesetting -
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         after a
> > > > >         > > > > >         while
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         it froze
> > > > >         > > > > >         the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         machine. I found
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         that
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         ctrl-alt-del
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         gave
> > > > >         me access
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         to the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         machine
> > > > >         > > > > >         again and I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         was able
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         to take a
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         snapshot of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         the
> > > > >         gdb
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         console
> > > > >         > > > > >         which
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         I attach.
> > > > >         > > > > >         It looks
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         like this
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         is
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         threading
> > > > >         problems
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          inside the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         gtk system
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         rather
> > > > >         > > > > >         than some
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         denemo thread
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         problem
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         (I was just
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          changing
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         between
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         windows in
> > > > >         > > > > >         Denemo
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         when it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         crashed,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         rather than
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          initiating
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         playback,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         entering
> > > > >         > > > > >         notes etc -
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         that's no
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         guarantee, of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          course, but my
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         gut
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         feeling).
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         I think it
> > > > >         > > > > >         would
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         help if we
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         could get
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         rid of the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         code
> > > > >         that
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         prompts
> > > > >         > > > > >         "Type
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         ENTER..."
> > > > >         > > > > >         - I know
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         you have
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         tried
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         before, but
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          evidently it is
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         still
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         there.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         > Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         > On May
> > > > >         > > > > >         1, 2015
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         10:25 AM,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         "Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         Shann"
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >          <address@hidden>
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         > wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          On Fri,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         2015-05-01
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         at 09:42
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         -0500,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          Jeremiah Benham
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          > I now
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         have a gub
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         branch with
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         upgraded
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         glib
> > > > >         but I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         am stuck
> > > > >         > > > > >         on
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          nsis . I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          > could
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         create a zip
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         version
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         now.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          That would
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         be
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         excellent -
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         people can try
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         it
> > > > >         out
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         without
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          committing
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >          themselves.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          Is the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         nsis problem
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         related to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         the new
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          glib?
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          > Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          > On Apr
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         29, 2015
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         8:20 AM,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         "Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          Benham"
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >          <address@hidden>
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >          I will
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         work on it.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         It may take
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         a
> > > > >         little
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         longer
> > > > >         > > > > >         than
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          I
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >          expected.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >          Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >          On Apr 29,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         2015 7:59
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         AM,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          "Richard Shann"
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         <address@hidden>
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >          This seems
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         to be the
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          latest
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         version of
> > > > >         > > > > >         glib:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >         https://developer.gnome.org/glib/glib-html-2.44.0.tar.gz
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  If
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         that will
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         work it
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          would be our
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         best bet
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          for bug
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >          fixes.
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >          Richard
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  On
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         Wed,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         2015-04-29 at
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          00:02 -0500,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         Jeremiah
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          Benham
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >          wrote:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         I'm
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         getting this
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          error when
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         trying to
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          compile
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         for
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         mingw:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         building
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         package:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          mingw::denemo
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         *** Stage:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         download
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          (denemo,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         mingw)
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         *** Stage:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         untar
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          (denemo, mingw)
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         *** Stage:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         patch
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          (denemo, mingw)
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         *** Stage:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          autoupdate (denemo,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         mingw)
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         *** Stage:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         configure
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          (denemo,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         mingw)
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         *** Stage:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         compile
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          (denemo,
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         mingw)
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         Command
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         barfed:
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >          cd 
> > > > > /home/jjbenham/public_html/gub/target/mingw/build/denemo-git.savannah.gnu.org--denemo.git-master
> > > > >  && make -j16
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         Tail of
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >          target/mingw/log/denemo.log
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >>>>>>>>
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >          make[1]: ***
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          [all-recursive]
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         Error 1
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >          make[1]:
> > > > >         Leaving
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >          directory
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > > `/home/jjbenham/public_html/gub/target/mingw/build/denemo-git.savannah.gnu.org--denemo.git-master'
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >          >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >                  >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >         > >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >         >
> > > > >         > > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > > libaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-audiointerface.o):audiointerface.c:(.text+0x445):
> > > > >  undefined reference to `_g_thread_try_new'                           
> > > > >                             
> > > > > libaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-audiointerface.o):audiointerface.c:(.text+0x8c5):
> > > > >  undefined reference to `_g_cond_wait_until'                          
> > > > >                             
> > > > > libaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-dummybackend.o):dummybackend.c:(.text+0x68):
> > > > >  undefined reference to 
> > > > > `_g_cond_wait_untilibaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-audiointerface.o):audiointerface.c:(.text+0x445):
> > > > >  undefined reference to `_g_thread_try_new'                           
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