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Re: [VM] Email dangers portrayed in media


From: James Freer
Subject: Re: [VM] Email dangers portrayed in media
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:19:36 +0000 (GMT)
User-agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14)

Thanks for the link

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Uday Reddy wrote:

The BBC has made a brilliant series called the "The Thick of It", a
political satire dealing with British politics and how the politicians
interact with the media.

Not sure i'd describe it as a brilliant series.... very poor compared with Yes Minister (years ago now) which was a bit more convincing. All the swearing and sexual connotations really spoil what could be quite entertaining.

has a brilliant segment dealing with how the stupid email reply conventions
used by Outlook-users (and now Thunderbird-users) can get people into
trouble by exposing information that should have been private.  You will
enjoy watching it.

I also know instances at work where this kind of thing has gotten people
into serious trouble.  Somebody should make a law prohibiting the so-called
"top-posting style" of replies.  But, the public doesn't yet know that all
this happens just because of the idiocy of the tech people.

Trouble is with 'Top Posting' is that i believe it was inherited from corporate Intranet. Emails would be cut off after so many lines automatically. The first internet email providers copied it. Daft with yahoo groups where one can have a thread which gets loads of replies... and gets bigger and bigger until someone chops off the bottom at some stage. Gmail UI doesn't help the user as it hides the rest of the previous replies. Thing is folk are lazy... it's easier to top post and forget the rest. Blackberry phones and others have followed suite. CVs - usual to put previous jobs in reverse chronological order.

I agree that bottom posting is better and chronological order is better. [although with many replies the indent gets bigger with each reply so longer threads have to be chopped top and bottom]. Most linux groups/lists prefer it apart from one i've found - reason being that top posts allows the moderators to review posts quicker than bottom posting. As much as i'd like to see bottom posting established as the norm... don't think it'll ever happen. Apart from linux group emails... i have not received ONE that has been bottom posted. Every time i've replied bottom posting (non linux groups) i've received a reply top posted - i've tried to 'rescue the world'.... it's a losing battle!

Now i just top post apart from linux groups and that's how it'll be - i can't see how folk are going to be persuaded otherwise [human's lazy by nature].

james



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