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Re: PSPP CTABLES


From: Ben Pfaff
Subject: Re: PSPP CTABLES
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 08:48:33 -0700
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I think it's likely that I'll change PSPP to use the same output model.
One reason that it differed until now is simply that it wasn't clear to
me how SPSS really modeled output.  The documentation on it is pretty
muddy.

I've now got code that reads and understands most .spv files just fine.
I'm still working on reading the oldest kind of .spv files, which use a
really funny way to encode tables.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 10:32:11AM -0500, Alan Mead wrote:
> FWIW, I'm excited that you're working on reading SPV format. I had
> assumed that the implicit output model might preclude compatibility.
> 
> -Alan
> 
> On 7/24/2018 4:30 PM, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > There might be some small hope here because I've been spending a lot of
> > time lately working to make PSPP understand SPSS's .spv output file
> > format, so that it can read (and write?) it directly.  Implicit in that
> > format is an understanding of the SPSS output model, which seems to be
> > entangled quite a bit with the CTABLES syntax.  It might therefore lead
> > someday to CTABLES implementation (but not soon).
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 09:21:11PM +0000, Crichton, Ronald wrote:
> >> I asked about this a few years ago.  I gather it would be difficult. Mind 
> >> you, I used TABLES in SPSS in about 1990 and got to quite like it and used 
> >> it a lot. So, here we are in 2018 and I use CTABLES in SPSS, and can’t get 
> >> the hang of it, at least not much more than the basic usage of it. Can’t 
> >> stand it. I long for the old TABLES function. Not available in SPSS. So, 
> >> here’s the thing: perhaps PSPP should develop its own version of TABLES 
> >> with just the basics, without trying to emulate SPSS because they have 
> >> stuffed up something that used to be quite good.
> >>
> >> From: Pspp-users [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Jakub Škrobánek
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2018 6:29 PM
> >> To: address@hidden
> >> Subject: PSPP CTABLES
> >>
> >> Hi, I would like to ask if there is any progression in CTABLES 
> >> implementation to PSPP. I read some threads 
> >> (http://pspp-users.gnu.narkive.com/r32JwdwI/what-features-of-custom-tables-ctables-are-most-important)
> >>  but they seems dead. Any suggestion?
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Jacob
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