Re: [Paparazzi-devel] can't arm the motors

[Piotr Esden-Tempski]

The problem with that is that the satellites might get configured wrongly. 
During the bind process you tell the satellite what kind of a receiver you are. 
Lisa/M is telling the receiver that it is the biggest and most advanced 
receiver currently known. And also expects the data to be formatted the way 
that receiver would.

If you bind using an external receiver it is not guaranteed that the satellite 
will send out the data in a format that is expected by Lisa/M causing possible 
crashes due to miscommunication.

Thus you should _ALWAYS_ use Lisa/M to bind your satellites. _NEVER_ an 
external receiver. Otherwise you are risking your vehicle.

Cheers,
Piotr

On Mar 13, 2014, at 20:16, Eduardo lavratti <address@hidden> wrote:

> btw, on the first time i used paparazzi with lisa/m (i think 2 year ago)  i 
> used spektrum radios.
> I ever made the bind using the satellite connected to original receiver and 
> then, after the bind i  connect the satellite to lisa.
> 
> ... its more simple. 
> 
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:17:27 +0100
> From: address@hidden
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] can't arm the motors
> 
> Recompile and upload your firmware.... then bind your receiver.
> Seems you somehow managed to flash a different version or something...
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:02 PM, evan igor <address@hidden> wrote:
> any comments please
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:49 PM, evan igor <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> before those snapshots i made make clean and make again.
> 
> and the same problems as it seems
> 
> Gps has the message pos accuracy: N/A
> 
> also no signal from RC 
> 
> any help will be appreciated in advance  :)
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:31 AM, evan igor <address@hidden> wrote:
> <Screenshot from 2014-03-13 00^%20^%22.png><Untitled1.png><Untitled.png>
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:29 AM, evan igor <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi all,
> thanks Felix and Eduardo for your response
> 
> i changed the setting for the battery and as the following picture it's good 
> but why
> 1- there is no GPS fix although the Gps work good with ublox. and can i start 
> work without GPS as in the picture there is kill routine for GPS fix.
> 2- there is no Rc signal although my rx and tx work great with ardupilot.
> 
> thanks and hope for help
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Felix Ruess <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Igor,
> 
> as you can see in the GCS you don't have a RC signal... so you can't use the 
> RC to arm the motors...
> 
> Regarding the payload errors: did you update the software or switch to 
> another branch without recompiling?
> Run make clean && make in the paparazzi directory...
> 
> Cheers, Felix
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Eduardo lavratti <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi igor, are refering to catastrofic low bat and and kill status ?
> 
> Have you connected the bat voltage sensor to you power connector ?
> 
> as i remember when the bat is too low the safe mode switch to kill motors. 
> 
> 
> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:55:01 +0200
> From: address@hidden
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] can't arm the motors
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> any notes for those problems :)
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 3:45 AM, evan igor <address@hidden> wrote:
> I used FTDI with paparazzi and it showed the following errors in GCS in the 
> attached pictures
> any suggestions i appreciate in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <paparazzi6.png><paparazzi5.png><paparazzi4.png><paparazzi2.png><paparazzi1.png><paparazzi.png>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:40 PM, evan igor <address@hidden> wrote:
> thanks for this great idea idea actually ididn't think in before.
> 
> i'll try it thanks Felix.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Felix Ruess <address@hidden> wrote:
> Then use that instead of the 3dr modems and check the status in 
> GCS/messages...
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:36 PM, evan igor <address@hidden> wrote:
> i have ftdi cable.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Felix Ruess <address@hidden> wrote:
> Well, it's a bit hard to help out without knowing what's going on....
> Do you have a seria<l->usb cable (e.g. FTDI cable) or a BMP or JTAG which 
> also has that?
> transparent_usb is only implemented for LPC21xx based autopilots...
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:21 PM, evan igor <address@hidden> wrote:
> for sorry Felix , i have another trouble with telemetry as i'm using 3dr 
> modem and set it to raw data and disable mavlink protocol for and no 
> telemetry appear is there any way to check.
> i didn't try transparent_usb should it help to get telemetry through usb 
> cable.
> thanks
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Felix Ruess <address@hidden> wrote:
> Are your motors armed? Did you check in GCS if the throttle indicator goes to 
> green? You can also check the ap_motors_on in the ROTORCRAFT_STATUS 
> message....
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:15 PM, AFISH <address@hidden> wrote:
> Try to low throttle, maybe you need trim to the lowest position.
> —
> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:11 PM, evan igor <address@hidden>wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone in this great community,
> 
> i got paparazzi lisa/m and i connected the spectrum satellite receiver to 
> UART 1/5.
> connect the v_in to 5 volt from speed controller and its GND to the GND of 
> speed controller and connect simply one motor for testing after powering it 
> from external lipo 6 cell. make the binding procedure then make the 
> transmitter in the position low throttle full yaw.
> 
> 
> but
> <B04.gif>
>  no action to the motor.
> 
> any advices.
> 
> thanks
> 
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