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Re: Nested segno and volta repeats


From: Luca Fascione
Subject: Re: Nested segno and volta repeats
Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 14:25:07 +0200

Oh yes. I was taught aaba as well, definitely.

Sorry, somehow I heard you were saying you'd read it aab, you see

L

On Sun, 29 May 2022, 13:33 Thomas Morley, <thomasmorley65@gmail.com> wrote:

> Am So., 29. Mai 2022 um 13:25 Uhr schrieb Luca Fascione <
> l.fascione@gmail.com>:
> >
> > What do you mean Thomas? When the sheet clearly indicates DC al Fine (Da
> Capo, from the beginning) why would it be normal to ignore such an explicit
> direction?
>
> Maybe I was not clear enough. For
>
> ||:  A    :||     B    ||
>           Fine      D.C. Al Fine
>
> The "Fine" may be regarded as ambiguous.
> By _convention_ above is played  A A B A and not A A B A A.
> But a composer could be expizit in what he wants.
> That's all I wanted to say, hope it's clearer now.
>
> Cheers,
>   Harm
>
> >
> > I wasn't aware of \repeat segno, neat thing, I've always had to do it by
> hand with cadenza trickeries...
> >
> > L
> >
> > On Sun, 29 May 2022, 10:45 Thomas Morley, <thomasmorley65@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am So., 29. Mai 2022 um 09:56 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra <
> jean@abou-samra.fr>:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Dan,
> >> >
> >> > Is there any way to get this repeat structure with the recent
> >> > repeat additions? This is from a question on the user list.
> >> >
> >> > ||:  A    :||     B    ||
> >> >           Fine      D.C. Al Fine
> >> >
> >> > -> A A B A
> >>
> >> From a musicians point of view:
> >> I've learned not to repeat the final A here, though as a rule of
> thumb(!).
> >> A composer could be expilzit by adding "con/senza repetizione"
> >>
> >> Afaict, "senza repetizione" is not supported by now.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>   Harm
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > My first thought was to do
> >> >
> >> > \version "2.23.10"
> >> >
> >> > m =
> >> > \repeat segno 2 {
> >> >    \repeat volta 2 {
> >> >      a'1
> >> >    }
> >> >    \volta 2 \fine
> >> >    b'1
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > { \m }
> >> > { \unfoldRepeats \m }
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > That works about fine, except that the resulting
> >> > structure with \unfoldRepeats is A A B A A and
> >> > not A A B A. What I need seems to be a kind of
> >> > \volta 2 \fine within the inner \repeat volta
> >> > that would apply \volta with the outer \repeat
> >> > segno. Did miss something like that? Should
> >> > it be registered as a feature request?
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Jean
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>


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