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Re: Nested segno and volta repeats


From: Thomas Morley
Subject: Re: Nested segno and volta repeats
Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 13:33:00 +0200

Am So., 29. Mai 2022 um 13:25 Uhr schrieb Luca Fascione <l.fascione@gmail.com>:
>
> What do you mean Thomas? When the sheet clearly indicates DC al Fine (Da 
> Capo, from the beginning) why would it be normal to ignore such an explicit 
> direction?

Maybe I was not clear enough. For

||:  A    :||     B    ||
          Fine      D.C. Al Fine

The "Fine" may be regarded as ambiguous.
By _convention_ above is played  A A B A and not A A B A A.
But a composer could be expizit in what he wants.
That's all I wanted to say, hope it's clearer now.

Cheers,
  Harm

>
> I wasn't aware of \repeat segno, neat thing, I've always had to do it by hand 
> with cadenza trickeries...
>
> L
>
> On Sun, 29 May 2022, 10:45 Thomas Morley, <thomasmorley65@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Am So., 29. Mai 2022 um 09:56 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra 
>> <jean@abou-samra.fr>:
>> >
>> > Hi Dan,
>> >
>> > Is there any way to get this repeat structure with the recent
>> > repeat additions? This is from a question on the user list.
>> >
>> > ||:  A    :||     B    ||
>> >           Fine      D.C. Al Fine
>> >
>> > -> A A B A
>>
>> From a musicians point of view:
>> I've learned not to repeat the final A here, though as a rule of thumb(!).
>> A composer could be expilzit by adding "con/senza repetizione"
>>
>> Afaict, "senza repetizione" is not supported by now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   Harm
>> >
>> >
>> > My first thought was to do
>> >
>> > \version "2.23.10"
>> >
>> > m =
>> > \repeat segno 2 {
>> >    \repeat volta 2 {
>> >      a'1
>> >    }
>> >    \volta 2 \fine
>> >    b'1
>> > }
>> >
>> > { \m }
>> > { \unfoldRepeats \m }
>> >
>> >
>> > That works about fine, except that the resulting
>> > structure with \unfoldRepeats is A A B A A and
>> > not A A B A. What I need seems to be a kind of
>> > \volta 2 \fine within the inner \repeat volta
>> > that would apply \volta with the outer \repeat
>> > segno. Did miss something like that? Should
>> > it be registered as a feature request?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Jean
>> >
>> >
>>



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