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If there is anyone on this list heading to the RightsCon conference in
Feb 2025, it would be great to connect with you before hand.
I shall be travelling from the US then on to the Philippines for about
a month.
greg
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1. Re: Introducing a new project for teenagers in free software
(and how you can help!) (Jean Louis)
2. Re: Introducing a new project for teenagers in free software
(and how you can help!) (Jean Louis)
3. Re: Introducing a new project for teenagers in free software
(and how you can help!) ([6]carmenmaris@tutanota.com)
4. Canoeboot 20241207 released, now with U-Boot UEFI payload on
x86 (Leah Rowe)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 01:34:26 +0300
From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: [7]carmenmaris@tutanota.com
Cc: Libreplanet Discuss <[8]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
Subject: Re: Introducing a new project for teenagers in free
software
(and how you can help!)
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* carmenmaris--- via libreplanet-discuss
<[9]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> [2024-12-03 22:24]:
> * Introducing teenagers to free software.
I have been running two times computer club, each time we called it
Kosmos (Cosmos).
Please few computers, install GNU/Linux, and manuals, print some
manuals, and then invite people to use it. Do not mind if people are
older or younger as older people may attract younger.
Let computers be accessible in the manner of teaching them how to
program, like Squeak or other tools.
Make time table:
- 1 hour basics of hardware, keyboard, monitor, peripherals, etc.
- 2 hours programming, use 2 languages in a month for introduction
- 1 hour playing per day
- writing of success stories
Making it physical is not that hard and is much more fun and more
productive IMHO.
Jean Louis
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 21:04:31 +0300
From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: melba <[10]mbingham3@riseup.net>
Cc: Paul Sutton <[11]paulsutton@disroot.org>, Paul Sutton via
libreplanet-discuss
<[12]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
Subject: Re: Introducing a new project for teenagers in free
software
(and how you can help!)
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* melba <[13]mbingham3@riseup.net> [2024-12-09 19:45]:
> Jean,
> While yes people who have the privilege to decouple from society,
such
> as myself, are free to chose how to engage with tech; it feels
> dismissive to not count the points brought up in this discussion;
about
> those that do not have the privilege of this choice as they are
the ones
> schools and government are forcing certain types of technology(and
other
> oppressive systems) on.
In sense of school system, yes, and I would have no idea what
programs
and technologies are in different schools all over the world. I am
just quite sure that in Uganda, students would like some technology
be
forced onto them, whatever it is.
We do not have perfect world sadly.
--
Jean Louis
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 23:41:57 +0100 (CET)
From: [14]carmenmaris@tutanota.com
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: Libreplanet Discuss <[15]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
Subject: Re: Introducing a new project for teenagers in free
software
(and how you can help!)
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Really interesting to see how you've done it. Thanks for that.
I'm going to run clubs in Auckland as well as online.
- Carmen
7 Dec 2024, 11:34 by bugs@gnu.support:
> * carmenmaris--- via libreplanet-discuss
<[17]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> [2024-12-03 22:24]:
>
>> * Introducing teenagers to free software.
>>
>
> I have been running two times computer club, each time we called
it Kosmos (Cosmos).
>
> Please few computers, install GNU/Linux, and manuals, print some
> manuals, and then invite people to use it. Do not mind if people
are
> older or younger as older people may attract younger.
>
> Let computers be accessible in the manner of teaching them how to
> program, like Squeak or other tools.
>
> Make time table:
>
> - 1 hour basics of hardware, keyboard, monitor, peripherals, etc.
> - 2 hours programming, use 2 languages in a month for introduction
> - 1 hour playing per day
> - writing of success stories
>
> Making it physical is not that hard and is much more fun and more
> productive IMHO.
>
> Jean Louis
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 23:05:23 +0000
From: Leah Rowe <[18]info@minifree.org>
To: [19]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Canoeboot 20241207 released, now with U-Boot UEFI payload
on
x86
Message-ID: <[20]a076654f-cd49-44fa-bee5-9e37c5473f0a@minifree.org>
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Hello everyone,
Yes that's right. You can use UEFI on a ThinkPad X200 now. The
original
vendor firmware (Lenovo) couldn't do UEFI! This feature has also
been
made available on many more mainboards, including the T400, T500,
Dell
Latitude E6400 and so on.
To be clear: this is not EDK2/Tianocore. It's U-Boot. U-Boot runs as
a
coreboot payload and provides a UEFI boot environment, which makes
installing GNU+Linux and BSD systems much easier than on, say, the
GRUB
or SeaBIOS payloads.
Hi,
[21]https://canoeboot.org/news/canoeboot20241207.html
Canoeboot is a free/libre BIOS/UEFI replacement on x86 and ARM,
providing boot firmware that initialises the hardware in your
computer,
to then load an operating system (e.g. GNU+Linux). It is
specifically a
coreboot distribution, like how Trisquel is a GNU+Linux
distribution. It
provides an automated build system to produce coreboot ROM images
with a
variety of payloads such as GNU GRUB or SeaBIOS, with regular
well-tested releases to make coreboot as easy to use as possible for
non-technical users. From a project management perspective, this
works
in exactly the same way as a Linux distro, providing a source-based
package manager (called cbmk) which patches sources and compiles
coreboot images. It makes use of coreboot for hardware
initialisation,
and then a payload such as SeaBIOS or GNU GRUB to boot your
operating
system; on ARM(chromebooks), we provide U-Boot (as a coreboot
payload).
For Canoeboot 20241207, today’s release, U-Boot is also provided as
an
optional coreboot payload on x86 machines. This provides a sensible
UEFI
implementation, useful for booting GNU+Linux and BSD systems more
easily. More information available on the U-Boot x86 page.
Information about the U-Boot payload can be found here:
[22]https://canoeboot.org/docs/uboot/uboot-x86.html
Highlights for this release:
* U-Boot payload now available on x86 machines (previously only
available for ARM64). With this, you can boot any number of
GNU/Linux
systems via UEFI. U-Boot provides a sensible, lightweight UEFI
implementation. It's not quite as complete as EDK2, but boots every
distro I've tried so far reliably.
* U-Boot also updated to the latest v2024.10 release, on both x86
and
ARM devices
* Various bug fixes in the build system.
The U-Boot tree in Canoeboot contains several fixes not currently
present in mainline U-Boot:
* Auto-boot timeout on the bootflow menu. This will auto-boot the
first
selected menu item after a few seconds, unless interrupted; you can
interrupt it by navigating the menu to choose something else. The
timer
is stopped when interrupted. I implemented this myself, for the
release.
U-Boot also currently does not support setting a custom background
colour on the bootflow menu, so this was hacked into the release by
hardcoding the colour that U-Boot sets when drawing and re-drawing
the
bootflow menu.
* A patch from Simon Glass that silently disables U-Boot's serial
console if a suitable serial device is not found. Not all machines
have
serial output on them, and U-Boot would otherwise hang at boot time;
this patch prevents U-Boot from hanging. Simon Glass is the
principle
maintainer of U-Boot's coreboot payload.
This is based on the recent stable release of Libreboot, namely
Libreboot 20241206. Therefore, this can be considered a stable
release
of Canoeboot.
--
Company director, Minifree Ltd
Registered in England, No. 9361826 | VAT No. GB202190462
Registered Office: 19 Hilton Road, Canvey Island, Essex SS8 9QA, UK
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Hello everyone,
Yes that's right. You can use UEFI on a ThinkPad X200 now. The
original
vendor firmware (Lenovo) couldn't do UEFI! This feature has also
been
made available on many more mainboards, including the T400, T500,
Dell
Latitude E6400 and so on.
To be clear: this is not EDK2/Tianocore. It's U-Boot. U-Boot runs
as a
coreboot payload and provides a UEFI boot environment, which
makes
installing GNU+Linux and BSD systems much easier than on, say,
the GRUB
or SeaBIOS payloads.
Hi,
[1][23]https://canoeboot.org/news/canoeboot20241207.html
Canoeboot is a free/libre BIOS/UEFI replacement on x86 and ARM,
providing boot firmware that initialises the hardware in your
computer,
to then load an operating system (e.g. GNU+Linux). It is
specifically a
coreboot distribution, like how Trisquel is a GNU+Linux
distribution.
It provides an automated build system to produce coreboot ROM
images
with a variety of payloads such as GNU GRUB or SeaBIOS, with
regular
well-tested releases to make coreboot as easy to use as possible
for
non-technical users. From a project management perspective, this
works
in exactly the same way as a Linux distro, providing a
source-based
package manager (called cbmk) which patches sources and compiles
coreboot images. It makes use of coreboot for hardware
initialisation,
and then a payload such as SeaBIOS or GNU GRUB to boot your
operating
system; on ARM(chromebooks), we provide U-Boot (as a coreboot
payload).
For Canoeboot 20241207, today’s release, U-Boot is also provided
as an
optional coreboot payload on x86 machines. This provides a
sensible
UEFI implementation, useful for booting GNU+Linux and BSD systems
more
easily. More information available on the U-Boot x86 page.
Information about the U-Boot payload can be found here:
[2][24]https://canoeboot.org/docs/uboot/uboot-x86.html
Highlights for this release:
* U-Boot payload now available on x86 machines (previously only
available for ARM64). With this, you can boot any number of
GNU/Linux
systems via UEFI. U-Boot provides a sensible, lightweight UEFI
implementation. It's not quite as complete as EDK2, but boots
every
distro I've tried so far reliably.
* U-Boot also updated to the latest v2024.10 release, on both x86
and
ARM devices
* Various bug fixes in the build system.
The U-Boot tree in Canoeboot contains several fixes not currently
present in mainline U-Boot:
* Auto-boot timeout on the bootflow menu. This will auto-boot the
first
selected menu item after a few seconds, unless interrupted; you
can
interrupt it by navigating the menu to choose something else. The
timer
is stopped when interrupted. I implemented this myself, for the
release. U-Boot also currently does not support setting a custom
background colour on the bootflow menu, so this was hacked into
the
release by hardcoding the colour that U-Boot sets when drawing
and
re-drawing the bootflow menu.
* A patch from Simon Glass that silently disables U-Boot's serial
console if a suitable serial device is not found. Not all
machines have
serial output on them, and U-Boot would otherwise hang at boot
time;
this patch prevents U-Boot from hanging. Simon Glass is the
principle
maintainer of U-Boot's coreboot payload.
This is based on the recent stable release of Libreboot, namely
Libreboot 20241206. Therefore, this can be considered a stable
release
of Canoeboot.
--
Company director, Minifree Ltd
Registered in England, No. 9361826 | VAT No. GB202190462
Registered Office: 19 Hilton Road, Canvey Island, Essex SS8 9QA, UK
References
1. [25]https://canoeboot.org/news/canoeboot20241207.html
2. [26]https://canoeboot.org/docs/uboot/uboot-x86.html
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