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Re: Members of the system administrator team, and the web master team


From: Neal E. Coombes
Subject: Re: Members of the system administrator team, and the web master team
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:00:16 -0600

I'd like to note to Alfred that Davi does not have complete power.  I control the domain name, if Davi were to be 'uncooperative' I could turn that off, not that I'm terribly concerned since Davi is the natural leader (he leads through doing work and presenting ideas, not through dictating to others).  Doesn't someone else control the certificate or something?  While your concern is valid, the way you address Davi in this conversation is fairly inappropriate, and I'm not impressed.

Davi: If you'd like to add me to the project as an administrator, I'd be happy to do my usual hands-off participation and just be there to oust you if necessary ;)

Neal

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Davi Leal <address@hidden> wrote:
In discussion in the #gnu IRC channel, Alfred M. Szmidt (ams) exposed I have
too much control on the GNU Herds project.


One of the proposed solutions:

 Add at least one guy more with access to the gnuherds.org machine.

 Take note it is a responsibility on confidence about users personal
 data.

 Take note too that if project's users do not like you they can vote
 you out.


Please, expose any more proposal you think the GNU Herds project should carry
out to solve such problem.





IRC: (partial log)
===

<davi> The one who have access to the gnuherds.org machine will be voted
      by the project users.  See http://gnuherds.org/charter#Committee

<davi> At GNU Herds we propose to use "direct democracy".
      See: http://gnuherds.org/charter#Decisions

<ams>  That is not access to the rest of the project

<davi> What is not good idea is that every person is allowed to access
      others data.

      They have access to the source code which run the webapp, thanks
      to the AGPLv3 license.

      They have access to his own personal data.

      They do _not_ have access to others personal data. Only to the
      published one.

<ams> That is not the same as access the project, and why are you to
     decide who has access where?

<davi> I did not decide it. Users decided it: Neal, Antenore, me, etc.

<ams> You can revert the decision,
     and only you can do so without the confirmation of others
     and you can ignore it.

<davi> Anybody can come and say: I do not like that, I want ...

      No, I can not revert the decision. I can just propose to revert
      the decision, but I can not revert it.  Users will vote on such
      proposal.

<ams> Indeed you can, since you are the only person with full control
     of the project, you are the project maintainer.

     Just admit that you are a dictator and live with it, there is
     nothing wrong with being a dictator.

<davi> I can be replaced.

      Say my family forbid me to contribute so much to the project.

      Instead of a maintainer, IMHO a team of maintainers could be
      a better solution.

      Reference:  http://gnuherds.org/charter#Committee

      Such team could be changed along years as users decide.

<ams> Kinda reminds me of some lunatic from Korea (the side with the
     crazy person) telling a reporter that Korea was a socialist
     country, and when the revolution was finished they would become
     communist.

     Obviously, Korea isn't socialist, nor communist.

<davi> So, let do it socialist-communist from the start!

      I will propose choose another guy to have access to the
      gnuherds.org machine.


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