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Re: [Fsfe-uk] AFFS PS


From: John¹
Subject: Re: [Fsfe-uk] AFFS PS
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:02:20 +0000

On Sunday 01 March 2009 10:55:41 John¹ wrote:
> On Sunday 01 March 2009 10:45:01 Adam Bower wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:00:50PM +0000, Marc Eberhard wrote:
> > > I have stopped paying my subscription to AFFS when it failed to
> > > invite members to an AGM. As far as I remember it was a requirement
> > > for AFFS to hold at least one annual meeting. So the situation might
> > > be really tricky in legal terms. I also have not received any
> > > information from AFFS until August
> >
> > I believe (from memory) that to reach quorum the AFFS constitutuion
> > (which AFFS is now well outside of) requires 20 members to be present
> > at a meeting. Is there any practical way around this requirement given
> > the current rules and state of the organisation?
>
> Having served on other bodies I believe that there is, I'll see if I can
> find the information from a national body that I sat on when
> it 'transferred its engagements'.
From memory it would require that the remaining paid up members be able to 
contact each other to sign an agreement, I'll see if I can get the bank to 
forward a message to those who may still be members, if I am the last one 
it simplifies matters even more.
>
> > > I don't know if I'm still a member with outstanding fees or no
> > > member anymore.
> >
> > This indeed is something that needs to be answered, Is it possible
> > that re-opening membership could provide a practical solution to
> > gaining quorum and holding a meeting? It also makes me wonder what
> > would happen if we couldn't reach quorum? We also have the situation
> > that people are being asked to pay membership fees and attend a
> > meeting for what may turn out to be a decision to wind up AFFS.
> >
> > Is it more practical to wind up AFFS and then restart with a new
> > organisation that has similar aims but a much more simple constitution
> > and rules or try to reboot AFFS and drastically change the
> > constitution which has proven to have effectively crippled it and
> > caused it to drift into the state that it is now in?
>
> There does remain the question of the funds in the AFFS Bank account,
> I'm not sure that the present members would wish to allow them to fall
> by default to the government, (as a dormant account), and they are, in
> part, donations, some of them sizeable, intended for specific purposes.
>
> However, your is a positive contribution to finding a way forward.
>
> > Thanks
> > Adam
>
> --
> John Seago
> GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/



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John Seago
GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/




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