Re: [Enigma-devel] Scottish Gaelic translation

[Erich Schubert]

Hi,
Maybe such languages can be distributed as add-on packages?
Shouldn't be much more than a flag and the translation file; albeit it
might be tricky to get gettext to find the file then.

Anyway, this would allow translations for smaller languages to be
asynchronously updated (or not updated). The web site could then list
them per version; and it would allow a translator to step up and
contribute a translation later.

Also note that translations of Enigma sometimes cannot or should not
be made automatically. There are some puzzles based on language;
translating them will make the level unsolvable, unfortunately. See
"the document" in Enigma I for an example. (Spoilers on the problem:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=546795 )

I'm not sure how to best handle such cases. Mark the level
untranslatable explicitly / require the translation to be done
manually inside the level file?
(I havn't checked if this problem has been addressed for this
particular level already.)

Speaking of translations; the enigma.desktop file (Freedesktop menu
entry for Linux systems) should also be translated:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=667656

There are tools that will include the .desktop strings in the
translation data and update the .desktop at compile time with the
translations. This is why I did not want to manually include single
translations in the .desktop file, when the process should be
automated for translator convenience.

Regards,
Erich

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Andreas Lochmann
<address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thank you for your support.
> But I have to admit that I'm sceptical.
> Let me explain:
> The language with the least number of native
> speakers we currently support is Belarussian
> with approximately 3,700,000 speakers.
> If the numbers in Wikipedia are correct,
> Scottish Gaelic is natively spoken by 63,000
> people, right?
>
> The problem is not in the number of speakers.
> Actually, the problem is in the number of
> potential translators. In contrast to most
> other projects, Enigma's translations are vast
> and ever-growing, as the number of levels
> steadily grows. There is no end on the effort.
> In languages with many speakers, there are
> many people who can continue with the
> translation in case the original translator
> cannot continue her work. In Scottish Gaelic,
> you and maybe Yannis will be the only ones
> who can do the translation. It will be a task
> for a life-time for you. Are you really willing
> to accept this burden?
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas
>
> (I wanted to use a Gaelic "best regards",
> but Google Translator does not support
> it ... what is it in Scottish Gaelic? :-)  )
>
>
> Am 17.02.2014 23:33, schrieb Fòram na Gàidhlig:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd like to start working my way through translating this excellent
>> game into Scottish Gaelic :)
>>
>> The locale is gd or gd_GB, encoding UTF-8.
>>
>> I have already sent a request to be added to the Transifex project.
>>
>> The flag would usually be the Scottish flag, but we will have a
>> problem there if somebody should want to translate the game into Scots
>> in the future, because it's the same flag (Scotland is a multilingual
>> country). We could use this one though:
>>
>> http://labspace.open.ac.uk/file.php/7437/!via/oucontent/course/3639/gaelic_1_flag.jpg
>>
>>
>> which is the symbol of the Gaelic community in Nova Scotia.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> GunChleoc
>>
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best regards,
Erich Schubert