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Re: [SUMMARY] #9 [[bbb:OrgMeetup]] on Wed, July 10, 19:00 UTC+3


From: Thomas S. Dye
Subject: Re: [SUMMARY] #9 [[bbb:OrgMeetup]] on Wed, July 10, 19:00 UTC+3
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 11:56:22 -1000
User-agent: mu4e 1.6.10; emacs 27.1

Aloha Suhail,

Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com> writes:

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87ppydmigz.fsf@gmail.com/t/#u

Thank you for that reference. I also found a reference on lwn.net:
<https://lwn.net/Articles/543339/>.

The article made an interesting observation, and one that I didn't know
to be true:

#+begin_quote
But anybody who has signed such agreement might want to be aware that the FSF thinks it owns their changes, regardless of whether they have been publicly posted or explicitly submitted for inclusion. One could argue that entirely private changes made by a signatory to that
  agreement are, despite being seen by nobody else, owned by the
FSF. Even an entirely separate function written in Emacs Lisp something which is not necessarily a derived work based on Emacs and which thus might not be required to be distributed under the GPL — might be subject to a claim of ownership by the FSF, at least until Richard has a chance to "think about" the situation. That may be a bit
  more than some signatories thought they were agreeing to.
#+end_quote

This may be off-topic, but I figured readers of this mailing list might find the above interesting (assuming it is still FSF's stance on the
topic).

From my perspective, the quote is confused about the concept of
"ownership".

IMHO, it is helpful to distinguish a right of property--a claim that others can be excluded from the use or enjoyment of something--and a right of person--a claim that one cannot be excluded from the use or enjoyment of something.

Ownership is often analyzed as a bundle of rights; in these cases full ownership means establishment of a property right.

The FSF strives to establish rights of person in software code, so that we all can use and enjoy it however we want, with the restriction that we cannot exclude others from the same use and enjoyment. With the distinction between a right of property and a right of person in mind, it is clear that FSF does not claim ownership.

hth,
Tom

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