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Re: [BUG] Org V 9.5 error when ~/.cache doesn't exist


From: Max Nikulin
Subject: Re: [BUG] Org V 9.5 error when ~/.cache doesn't exist
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 23:07:27 +0700
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On 02/11/2021 17:55, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
Max Nikulin writes:

Ihor, your fix affects linux as well. .cache directory may be missed in
fresh accounts. E.g. I just have created a new test container (my old
one has emacs-25):

After second thought, I am not sure anymore if using XDG is a good idea.
Emacs itself only recently started supporting XDG and the support is
somewhat limited. Similar to the described case with non-existing .cache
directory, Emacs ignores non-existing .config/emacs folder for init.el.
Emacs never creates .config directory.
...
4. Same as 3, but create $XDG_CACHE_DIR if possible. It is similar to
    other XDG-complient software (at least, that's what I saw in
    qutebrowser code).

I like the idea to put temporary automatically created files to a dedicated directory. Backups are easier when hand-written config files are separated from stuff that can be recreated on demand. Since enough applications follow XDG conventions, I suppose, XDG_CACHE_HOME=~/.cache is a reasonable variant consistent with user expectations. Emacs directory may be a fallback when XDG_CACHE_HOME can not be created. I am against using ~/.cache only if it already exists. It may result in stale cache in the emacs directory populated before another application created ~/.cache, so user would have 2 directories with cache files.

I agree that xdg.el lacks some useful features. Even parts of emacs such as startup.el and files.el do not use this package. Similar libraries for other programming languages offer wider support of OSes and create directories on demand, e.g. https://github.com/adrg/xdg for Go.

Maybe org-macs.el is a better place for code dealing initialization of cache directory.


P.S. `org-open-file' may benefit from using of xdg.el. MIME handlers obtained from .desktop files should be more consistent with expectations of users of desktop environments.




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