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Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates


From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]")
Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 05:00:59 +0000



On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 8:02 PM Rasmus <address@hidden> wrote:
Nicolas Goaziou <address@hidden> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Steve Downey <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> Asking users to accept any breakage in the tool they use to get work done
>> is a lot. Changes in UI in emacs are opt-in.
>>
>> Even if the change is the right thing to do.
>
> I think some of you (basically, anyone thinking we should enable "<s
> TAB" by default ;)) are missing the point.
>
>
> The first important thing to understand is that, even if we enable
> `org-tempo' by default, next Org release /will break/ for some of us.
>
> - It will break because `org-tempo' is only 99% backward-compatible.  So
>   anyone having customizing templates is bound to change them.
>
> - It will break because there are 9 other incompatible changes between
>   9.1 and 9.2.
>
> So, asking to load `org-tempo' by default just to avoid breaking users
> set-up is a wrong argument. It will only "protect" those among us that
> use "<s TAB" but didn't customize /and/ are not affected by the other
> incompatible changes. IOW, updating Org from 9.1 to 9.2 will not be
> smooth for everyone. No matter what `org-tempo' becomes.

Nicolas, I have been wondering about something, reading all these posts,
irrespective of whether tempo is loaded by default or not (I don’t care).

Do you think org-tempo should try to detect "old" versions of
org-structure-template-alist and give a better error if it sees one?  I
don’t know what the "best practice" is this case...

Yes, it absolutely should.

Carsten
 

Thanks,
Rasmus

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