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Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks?
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Robert Pluim |
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Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? |
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Thu, 14 May 2020 12:01:57 +0200 |
>>>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 23:08:04 -0500, Karl Fogel <address@hidden> said:
Karl> Here's a concrete example I've seen over and over:
Karl> User does `C-x C-f' to find a file, but they hit Return at the wrong
Karl> moment while typing the file path, causing a Dired buffer comes up
Karl> visiting the file's directory. The user is, of course, totally
Karl> baffled by this result. And yet it's obvious why this is a good
Karl> default behavior for `find-file' -- for people who understand what's
Karl> going on.
Are you proposing "you appear to be visiting a directory, would you
like to enable dired? [yes/no/once]"? That would be massively
annoying, but only once per feature, so I could live with it. Or we
could add an 'emacs-expert-user' variable (or should that be
'expert-emacs-user'? :-) ).
Karl> If the proposed starter pack is going to mitigate effects like that
Karl> for newcomers, it can only do so by making the keybound functionality
Karl> space sparser -- which of course then lowers the reward-for-investment
Karl> rate as the user gains expertise. How do you propose solving that?
Karl> Do we make an explicit "I'm ready to leave newcomer mode now" command?
Karl> But that requires the user to make a guess about the moment of their
Karl> graduation from newcomer to non-newcomer -- and this moment is
Karl> mythical, since the learning is a continuous process with no discrete
Karl> boundary.
disabled commands already offer this, no?
Robert
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