Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs

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João Távora <address@hidden> 작성:

> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 12:58 PM Philippe Vaucher
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > I think "all in string-" or "all in string- or multibyte-" would work
> > for me. Sure, the first time you try to find "multibyte" in in
> > "string-" you fail but you rapidly know that from now only multibyte
> > starts with multibyte. For example your list I'd do:
> >
> > multibyte-string-p -> multibyte-string-p
> > string-to-multibyte -> multibyte-from-string
> > string-as-multibyte -> multibyte-from-string-unsafe
> > set-buffer-multibyte -> buffer-set-multibyte
> > multibyte-char-to-unibyte -> multibyte-char-to-unibyte
>
> [1]
>
> Do you know what this would make to fine completion list
> I gave you?  It would make it suck.  So you, the "bit of an
> extremist" who "is annoyed by a little noise", are prepared to
> introduce  an unimaginable amount of it into my and other's
> workflows at the slightest difficulty and resistance to read
> a fine manual.  I like Emacs because it respects people's
> established workflows, and allows for programmers
> to build on it, so they can use whatever workflow they
> prefer.

Really? This whole mail thread’s 80% is about why just usual
prefix-searching isn’t good and you should use ‘C-h <something>’
in order to search for a function. I can’t say that’s how it’s
respecting a person’s ‘established’ workflow… I think it’s fair
enough to say that Emacs is geared towards the workflow the
majority of emacs-devel is used to. (Which is very different
from usual Emacs users.)

> Unfortunately, you're finding it a bit hard to support
> your -- absolutely legitimate, mind you -- ruby-esque
> ways.

It’s not ruby-esque, mind you - it’s consistency, that almost
every language aims to be. I can’t understand why you’re keep
calling it as ‘ruby’ or something implying that it’s something
new that doesn’t work with Emacs.

> But you should be working to have proper
> namespacing so you can work with a magnar-string.el
> or ruby-regexp.el library the way you feel more
> comfortable.  That takes work, yes, but at least it's a
> win-win, not a lose-lose. If proper namespacing takes a lot
> of work, then work on a powerful completion tool. I can
> help you with that.  You're French, right? Imagine if
> Google  decided they'd to the complete works of Raymond
> Roussell from French to modern, easy-to-search, French.
>
> João
>
> PS: BTW let a monkey bite me if for each of those
> proposed renames you don't start a separate
> 100-mail long bike-shedding war.