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Re: [ELPA] New package: transient


From: 조성빈
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient
Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 21:09:11 +0900


> 2020. 5. 2. 오후 8:24, Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> 작성:
> 
> 
>> 
>> From: Philippe Vaucher <address@hidden>
>> Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 12:56:41 +0200
>> Cc: address@hidden, Richard Stallman <address@hidden>,
>> Emacs developers <address@hidden>
>> 
>> I think we are mixing two concepts here. To search for a single function, 
>> where you already know the
>> keywords, yes "C-h d" works. To get a curated list of the API of a topic, 
>> not so much.
> 
> That's why I proposed to have a variant of "C-h d" that would only
> look in the arguments and in the first line of the doc string.  It
> would produce less false positives.
> 
>> I still think "C-h d alist", because it does not give me assq and assoc is 
>> not doing a good job.
> 
> they do now.
> 
>> Because alist is controversial let's take "C-h d regexp match": it does not 
>> give me string-match nor
>> match-string.
> 
> ??? It does here.
> 
>> I'm still not very satisfied about the tools you showed for listing an 
>> overview of the API to manipulate regexp,
>> or files, or processes (etc). What you are basically saying is that wanting 
>> to have this overview is overrated,
>> but for me it helps me understand the landscape of how the API works and is 
>> designed. What functions
>> would be available should I need them in the future, what parts is missing, 
>> etc.
> 
> For that, you should definitely read the manual, not just look at the
> list of APIs.  A list of the APIs will not tell enough, especially if
> you are coming to a language that has a long history, with such
> idiosyncratic names as cdr and assq.

Isn’t this the problem that the proposal is trying to address? So that people 
can get more info from the function names without needing to know all of the 
idiosyncrasies.


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