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Re: composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-*


From: Juri Linkov
Subject: Re: composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-*
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:45:46 +0300
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)

> JL> You could include lowercase versions since they are sometimes used to
> JL> numerate subsections.  But please be careful to not create conflicts
> JL> with the existing rules in cyrillic-translit like ("/i" ?і) and ("/I" ?І)
> JL> where І is CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER BYELORUSSIAN-UKRAINIAN I.
>
> How about
>
>  ;; Roman numerals, commonly used for months and section/subsection numbers
>  ("/RI" ?Ⅰ)
>  ("/RII" ?Ⅱ)
>  ("/RIII" ?Ⅲ)
>  ("/RIV" ?Ⅳ)
>  ("/RV" ?Ⅴ)
>  ("/RVI" ?Ⅵ)
>  ("/RVII" ?Ⅶ)
>  ("/RVIII" ?Ⅷ)
>  ("/RIX" ?Ⅸ)
>  ("/RX" ?Ⅹ)
>  ("/RXI" ?Ⅺ)
>  ("/RXII" ?Ⅻ)
>
>  ("/ri" ?ⅰ)
>  ("/rii" ?ⅱ)
>  ("/riii" ?ⅲ)
>  ("/riv" ?ⅳ)
>  ("/rv" ?ⅴ)
>  ("/rvi" ?ⅵ)
>  ("/rvii" ?ⅶ)
>  ("/rviii" ?ⅷ)
>  ("/rix" ?ⅸ)
>  ("/rx" ?ⅹ)
>  ("/rxi" ?ⅺ)
>  ("/rxii" ?ⅻ)

This looks better.

> JL> One possible letter for ь is x.  I guess it is from jcuken-only
> JL> keyboards, but since it is already taken for x in cyrillic-translit,
> JL> maybe we should replace the rule ("x" ?х) with ("x" ?ь)?
>>> 
>>> OK, ditto for X -> Ь.  We'll be lynched, surely.
>
> JL> This is why I suggest you to move out most new rules to a separate
> JL> input method, or at least reduce the likelihood of possible annoyance.
>
> Users still need to use the method at some point.  Delaying the
> annoyance until then doesn't make it any less of a problem--we're still
> interfering with x/X in the secondary method.  I'll make the change in
> the core method for now, and let's see if it's a problem.

Ok.  And what about combining characters?  Is it possible to insert them
using input-method rules?

> JL> I like your current set of rules, they are easy to remember and input.
> JL> But I have doubts about << and >> since they are inconsistent with
> JL> other sequences with the leading slash.
> ...
> JL> I'm not convinced of the need of creating an exception for these two
> JL> characters.  Such exceptions do more harm than good, e.g. the user has
> JL> to remember which quotes require the prefix slash and which don't.
>
> OK, I've made it /<< and />> for those two.

Thanks.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




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