Re: GNUstep Desktop

[H. Nikolaus Schaller]

Hi,
I tried to build GSDE on a RasPi with Debian 9.13. Why 9.13?
Because it is smaller than newer releases.

I'd even prefer Debian 7.11 because it is really lightweight on some devices 
with
not too much RAM.

Well, first of all I observed that installing dependencies in a script with a 
big
loop calling apt-get install inside isn't the standard way and reinventing a 
tiny
wheel of Debian :) That is the key task the apt-get package manager was invented
decades ago...

Therefore I have created a simple wrapper debian package (letux-gsde) which
defines the dependencies:

http://download.goldelico.com/quantumstep/debian/dists/stretch/main/binary-all/letux-gsde_0.20230525134012_all.deb

or sources, which I used to make the package:

https://git.goldelico.com/?p=letux-rootfs.git;a=commit;h=e15d417800cbd7815abf426187f903007dd3df5d

In the long run, if there is a proper Debian source package there are also build
dependencies where the -dev libs could go to.

Then apt-get will run that loop for us - but only if needed. And, another 
benefit
is that it is possible to define alternative dependencies (e.g. "clang-6.0 | 
clang").
So the clumsy distinction between different debian*.txt dependency files likely
isn't needed any more.

Next, my package will run your fetch_world and build_world in a preinst script.

This is where I am stuck now:

==================
 libdispatch
==================
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:2 (cmake_minimum_required):
  CMake 3.15.1 or higher is required.  You are running version 3.7.2


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
error building the system apps
dpkg: error processing package letux-gsde (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 letux-gsde
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@letux:~# which cmake
/usr/bin/cmake
root@letux:~# cmake --version
cmake version 3.7.2

CMake suite maintained and supported by Kitware (kitware.com/cmake).
root@letux:~# cat /etc/debian_version 
9.13
root@letux:~# 

Does anyone know why libdispach has such a strong depencency?
Or if it is really needed?

BR,
Nikolaus


> Am 22.05.2023 um 09:49 schrieb Ondrej Florian <onflapp@yahoo.com>:
> 
> Absolutely.
> I don't consider GNUstep Desktop to be the final place of maintenance.
> 
> GSDE is an experiment. It allows you to test and see how complete desktop 
> system *could* work like.
> That's why everything is in one place and it is easy to build from scratch.
> 
> I do not follow strict release process.
> It moves fast but it also breaks fast!
> 
> Once an app or framework reaches maturity, it should be cleaned up and moved 
> over to GAP or other appropriate place.
> 
> I hope this makes sense,
> Ondrej
> 
> On 2023-05-21 11:10:10 +0000 Fred Kiefer <fredkiefer@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
>> One question though: Would it be possible to merge back the forked 
>> applications (Addresses and BatMon) to GAP? If you two need a tie breaker to 
>> decide on which version to use, I am willing to volunteer.
>> Cheers
>> Fred
>>> Am 21.05.2023 um 02:38 schrieb Ondrej Florian via Info-gnustep 
>>> <info-gnustep@gnu.org>:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I'd like to announce GNUstep Desktop.
>>> https://onflapp.github.io/gs-desktop/index.html
>>> I have been working on it for more than a year now and it is finally 
>>> complete enough to be my main desktop environment.
>>> It is perfect for my Raspberry PI! :-)
>>> GSDE contains many GNUstep apps and frameworks in one place.
>>> Enhanced, fixed, configured and integrated so that everything works 
>>> together seamlessly.
>>> Notable enhancements:
>>> - StepTalk               - used for system scripting, fixes and 
>>> enhancements to the API
>>> - TextEdit                - scriptable + enhancements for attachment and 
>>> link panels
>>> - HelpViewer         - uses filters to display man, info and gsdoc pages
>>> - WrapperFactory - greatly enhanced, support for filters and services
>>> - Terminal               - a lot of improvements, refactored into Kit, 
>>> scriptable
>>> - Preferences        - taken from NEXTSPACE + additional settings for 
>>> timezone, keys, themes
>>> - WindowMaker    - make tweaks and fixes to fit with GNUstep
>>> New applications:
>>> - WebBrowser       - Google Chrome with GNUstep UI, scriptable
>>> - VimGS                 - Vim with GNUstep UI (using TerminalKit), 
>>> scriptable
>>> - Player                  - VLC with GNUstep UI, scriptable
>>> - DocViewer         - PDF and HTML document viewer, filters for additional 
>>> formats (e.g. markdown), scriptable
>>> - ImageViewer      - filter for additional formats, scriptable
>>> - RemoteView       - VNCViewer
>>> - Librarian             - document indexing - similar to NeXT's Digital 
>>> Librarian
>>> - ScreenShot        - screenshot service
>>> Other apps:
>>> Gorm and ProjectCenter, GWorkspace, GNUMail
>>> Other utilities:
>>> Dictionary, Affiche, FTP, TalkSoup, EdenMath, Addresses
>>> ForManager, DefaultsManager, Console, HtopGS, OpenUp,
>>> Process monitor, Volume and Battery controls.
>>> ...and more....
>>> WebPage: https://onflapp.github.io/gs-desktop/index.html
>>> github: https://github.com/onflapp/gs-desktop
>>> ---
>>> Spending weeks and months deep in GNUstep and all those apps created with 
>>> it,
>>> made me really appreciate all the amazing work that went into it.
>>> I hope that GNUstep Desktop will help to renew the interest in GNUstep as 
>>> desktop.
>>> Ondrej
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> 
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