Re: Lunar Orbiting Platform Gateway

[Kyle Flaherty]

Excuse me if this is not the correct venue. The previously linked report made a few comments on possible lunar based radio telescopes. However upon searching I did not see any recent firm plans. Does any know what work is being done?

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 2:25 PM Michelle Thompson <address@hidden> wrote:

Thank you. This, along with the ICSIS, have been very helpful in learning about what's going on and what to expect in the developing radio environment. 

A proposed amateur radio plan (from ARISS) is in addition to what's covered in the Architecture report and the ICSIS. I'll forward whatever I can get as soon as I can. 

-Michelle W5NYV

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 4:23 AM Kevin K Gifford <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi Space-RF-SDR enthusiasts -

Please see below link for the recent (9/25/2019) space agencies lunar communications architecture final report that has detailed information on the planned communications links, protocols and frequencies.  

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=2ahUKEwi85KXB8sjlAhUDWa0KHcQhA7MQFjABegQIBBAC&url="">

This is the current baseline for Gateway and downstream lunar surface operational infrastructure.  The protocol specifications are all available at ccsds.org.

Kevin

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From: Michelle Thompson <address@hidden>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:41 PM
To: John Malsbury <address@hidden>
Cc: Kevin K Gifford <address@hidden>; address@hidden <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Lunar Orbiting Platform Gateway

 

Yes - I'm attempting to get a copy of the slides from recent ARISS presentations. There was a diagram with planned frequencies. Plenty to work with. 

-Michelle W5NYV

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:57 AM John Malsbury <address@hidden> wrote:

And you mentioned something about amateur radio portions, Michelle?

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:52 AM Kevin K Gifford <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi -

I am involved in recommending the radio communications architecture for Gateway which is baselined to utilize CCSDS (see cases.org) protocols.

For long-haul RF links (Gateway to Earth) Unified Space Link Protocol (USLP).  

For short-haul RF (Gateway to lunar surface): Proximity-1 and AOS

For proximity wireless networks (around Gateway and on lunar surface) 802.11 n/ac baselined, 802.11ax and LTE are under strong consideration.

Please feel free to respond directly if additional information is needed and I’ll strive to assist.

Kevin

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From: Discuss-gnuradio <discuss-gnuradio-bounces+kevin.gifford=address@hidden> on behalf of John Malsbury <address@hidden>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:34 PM
To: Michelle Thompson <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Lunar Orbiting Platform Gateway

 

It was a cheap joke on my part (and not at all commentary on the gateway concept).  Disregard.

I'd be down to collaborate on something open source.  Could you point to publicly available documents that summarize the standards/specs?  

-John

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:50 AM Michelle Thompson <address@hidden> wrote:

I was hesitant to ask why, but I'm curious now. 

I know the Gateway is controversial. I understand there's a lot of doubt it will actually happen. The heavy emphasis on commercial activity is another aspect. 

However, I've been asked for help on a receiving station for the amateur radio portions that might be included. There's a lot of overlap between what I do and the type of communications proposed. 

Comment and critique would be very appreciated here. 

-Michelle W5NYV

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:14 AM Müller, Marcus (CEL) <address@hidden> wrote:

Hey John,

> > Anyone working on…
> Definitely not

Does that imply they're finished?

Best regards,
Marcus