Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP GNU radio receiver

[CEL]

1. Never use a throttle with a hardware block. GRC's log will actually
shout at you that you shouldn't be doing that!
2. I must admit this is about as good as I'd expect. I of course can't
infer temporal behaviour from screenshots.

Best regards,
Marcus

On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 14:18 +0100, Simona Sibio wrote:
> Hi Marcus,
> 
> I tried to change the offset in the transmitter but the output in the 
> receiver is the same, also if I send a sine signal with 10 Hz and 0,1 
> amplitude: the output became unstable in frequency and in time is always zero 
> (see attached, 130K).
> The flow graph is attached.
> Do you have any suggestions?
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Simona
> 
> Il giorno mar 16 lug 2019 alle ore 18:59 Müller, Marcus (CEL) 
> <address@hidden> ha scritto:
> > That phase is not any more or less random than that of your local
> > oscillator, so there might be some misunderstanding here.
> > On Tue, 2019-07-16 at 18:52 +0100, Simona Sibio wrote:
> > > Thank you very much!
> > > But, with the offset tuning I cannot edit the phase.
> > > Maybe, I have to change method.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > 
> > > Simona
> > > 
> > > Il giorno mar 16 lug 2019 alle ore 18:25 Müller, Marcus (CEL) 
> > > <address@hidden> ha scritto:
> > > > Well, there's leakage / DC blocking filters in most mixers, so yes. 
> > > > 
> > > > But the solution is simple (and hardware-supported transparently on
> > > > USRPs): Just tune at an offset, and mix down to 0 Hz (==constant!) in
> > > > digital. Your USRP can do that for you, google for "USRP offset
> > > > tuning".
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Marcus
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2019-07-16 at 18:15 +0100, Simona Sibio wrote:
> > > > > Thank you very much!!
> > > > > Then, I cannot measure a constant because, in the RX chain, maybe, 
> > > > > some filter deletes the information, doesn't it?
> > > > > Thank you for your time and tour tips!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Simona
> > > > > 
> > > > > Il giorno mar 16 lug 2019 alle ore 18:01 Müller, Marcus (CEL) 
> > > > > <address@hidden> ha scritto:
> > > > > > Look up what a quadrature modulator does. It's just a multiplication
> > > > > > with e^{j2\pi f_{carrier}t}, in the end.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Your constant signal s(t) = c const. would hence be transmitted as
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > c·e^{j2\pi f_{carrier}t}
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > whereas a complex sinusoid of frequency f and amplitude a,
> > > > > > s(t) = a·e^{j2\pi f t) would be transmitted as
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > a·e^{j2\pi f t)·e^{j2\pi f_{carrier}t} = a·e^{j2\pi 
> > > > > > (f+f_{carrier})t}  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > so, identical to the constant signal, just at a different frequency.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Marcus
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, 2019-07-16 at 17:53 +0100, Simona Sibio wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Marcus,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you for tip!
> > > > > > > I know that calibration is not so easy but I hope that.
> > > > > > > Could you help me to understand what happened with a constant 
> > > > > > > complex baseband signal?
> > > > > > > I am beginner in this field.
> > > > > > > Thank you for your time.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Simona
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Il giorno mar 16 lug 2019 alle ore 17:39 Müller, Marcus (CEL) 
> > > > > > > <address@hidden> ha scritto:
> > > > > > > > Watch out! What do you get at the *output* of your SDR device 
> > > > > > > > when you
> > > > > > > > transmit a constant complex baseband signal, mixed to a carrier
> > > > > > > > frequency? How does that differ from transmitting a complex 
> > > > > > > > baseband
> > > > > > > > sinusoid mixed to a carrier frequency?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2019-07-16 at 18:32 +0200, sumit kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Ok, so for a constant source, in the time domain you will see 
> > > > > > > > > a flat signal only! Try connecting a spectrum analyzer and 
> > > > > > > > > you shud see a peak at DC becz Fourier transform of constant 
> > > > > > > > > signal is impulse. 
> > > > > > > > > And yes, as Marcus said, increase the sampling rate! 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 at 18:06, Simona Sibio <address@hidden> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the assistance.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I put the module "constant source" in my flow grap. 
> > > > > > > > > > With this module, I can choose witch amplitude I want to 
> > > > > > > > > > send.
> > > > > > > > > > I attached the flow graph.
> > > > > > > > > > And, I would want to read these values in the receiver.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Simona
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Il giorno mar 16 lug 2019 alle ore 16:58 sumit kumar 
> > > > > > > > > > <address@hidden> ha scritto:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Simona, what is the "constant signal" here ? 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 at 17:54, Simona Sibio 
> > > > > > > > > > > <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I want to use GNU radio to measure the amplitude and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the phase of a signal.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I send a constant signal with the transmitter USRP but 
> > > > > > > > > > > > in the receiver there is a flat signal with amplitude 0 
> > > > > > > > > > > > and offset 0.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to send a sine signal and the receveir works 
> > > > > > > > > > > > fine.
> > > > > > > > > > > > How can I do to send only a constant and measure the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > amplitude?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Simona
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
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