Re: [Denemo-devel] ReadingNoteNames Varaitions

[Jeremiah Benham]

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:45:18PM +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 08:02 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:09 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Richard Shann <address@hidden>  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 10:25 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> > > >> I began creating variations on ReadingNoteNames. So far I have:
> > > >>
> > > >> LineOrSpace:
> > > >> User enters an "l"
> > > >
> > > > It's nice to see some scripts. A few ideas:
> > > >> LineOrSpace:
> > > > The instruction was difficult to read (I read | for l) perhaps make  
> > > > the
> > > > instruction
> > > > Insert letter L for line and S for space
> > > > (accept upper or lower case then ...)
> > > 
> > > What is the best way to do this? 
> > I can't claim any expertise here. In C you would just force the case
> > (tolower say) and then just test for that. 
> > However, I have had a thought that would make these sorts of scripts
> > easier to write:
> > I propose we could have a
> > 
> > (d-FindDirective-standalone tag)
> I found a sneaky way to do this, via a script, so it now available. It
> creates a standalone directive but keeps the cursor on the directive, so
> that you can go on to set the fields without having to move the cursor
> left back on to it.

Let me know when you implement this. I have tried  (d-PutDirective-standalone 
"mytag")
but the error at the terminal says: 

Just got an error; tag is
        unbound-variable


Would you recommend that in games like ReadingNoteNames each note have a 
standalone directive and then use (d-FindDirective-standalone tag) to find each 
note?

Jeremiah

> 
> > 
> > which would move the cursor to a standalone directive with the named
> > tag. (Variants for forward/backward and chord/note/staff directives).
> > 
> > The idea is that you could put a markers in the music and be able to
> > find them again, rather than trying to keep track of the cursor (which
> > can be tricky in Denemo because of its concept of an appending postion -
> > cursor stopping on the barline). Specifically the ReadingNoteNames works
> > by putting up notes & then changing their noteheads - relying on
> > tracking where the cursor is. Instead the note could have a directive
> > attached marking it as the note prompted for, and then the note can be
> > found again even if the user has moved the cursor meanwhile.
> To make this possible I have created a d-NextStandaloneDirective
> command. With this (and querying the tag field) you can find a directive
> marking a point in the music.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > I think the infrastructure may all be in already - I recall writing
> > stuff for doing named bookmarks using the old LilyPond inserts. So this
> > is largely cosmetic: in particular we could now have a command
> > 
> > (d-PutDirective-standalone tag)
> > 
> > which would put a directive without setting any fields, which is what
> > you would do to place a named marker to mark a spot in the music, but
> > without it having any effect on the print out or the midi out or even
> > the display.
> > As a bonus, the existence of such a command makes it easier to explain
> > DenemoDirectives - at the moment creating a DenemoDirective is a
> > side-effect of setting a field - e.g.
> > (d-PutDirective-standalone-display "mytag" "hello")
> > creates a directive and sets the display field.
> > Now we can describe this as
> > 
> > (d-PutDirective-standalone "mytag");;; create a standalone directive
> > (d-PutDirective-standalone-display "mytag" "hello");;; set its display field
> > 
> > although in practice we would omit the first line.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > > Should I chain a bunch of "or  
> > > swithes" or should have a function that searches a list for mathing  
> > > string returning TRUE if found FALSE otherwise. I am thinking I'm c  
> > > here but I will translate it to scheme.
> > > 
> > > Jeremiah
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > or what about space bar for space.
> > > >
> > > >> if the note is on a line or "s" if it is on a space.
> > > >>
> > > >> UpDownOrSame:
> > > >
> > > >> User enters a "u" if the interval goes up, a "d" if the interval  
> > > >> goes down, and an "s" if the interval stays the same.
> > > > what about arrows, accepting forward or backward arrow for the same.
> > > >
> > > >> CountSteps:
> > > >> User enters a number for each interval couting the number of  
> > > >> diatonic steps that are used to make up the interval.
> > > >>
> > > >> DiatonicInterval:
> > > >> User enters the diatonic interval number. So c up to e would be 3  
> > > >> for third. c down to b would be 2 for snd. c staying on c would be  
> > > >> 1 for unison.
> > > >>
> > > >> I also wrote anouther. It is called StepSkipOrSame. I have not  
> > > >> commited it because I am not sure what the user input should be.
> > > >
> > > >> The user should enter a letter/number depending if the interval  
> > > >> steps up the scale, skips up the scale, or stays the same. I  
> > > >> thought of then letters t=step, k=skip, and a=same. But this is all  
> > > >> contingent on the fact that they no how to spell.
> > > > hmm arrows and control-arrows? You are thinking of little children  
> > > > here -
> > > > they get the hang of things quickly but they wouldn't use written  
> > > > instructions - the adults would read those and
> > > > show the kids, I guess.
> > > >
> > > > I think the feedback could be much improved now, with the ability to
> > > > insert any graphic into the music - so a correct answer could cause  
> > > > the
> > > > insert of a nice big Tick sign (d-DirectivePut-standalone-graphic
> > > > "BigTick" "BigTick") with some gx, gy and minpixels to position it and
> > > > give it some space.
> > > >
> > > > And for older kids we could sound intervals and ask them to identify  
> > > > by
> > > > inserting the note...
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Jeremiah
> > > >>
> > > >>
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