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[Demexp-dev] Re: About delegation


From: David MENTRE
Subject: [Demexp-dev] Re: About delegation
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:38:31 +0200
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Hello Serge,

I'm not sure to understand your question. You can ask it in French if it
is easier.

Serge Leblanc <address@hidden> writes:

> There is something which heckle me. How the delegate discusses the votes
> in the name of the persons who have chosen him?

You mean, how a delegate justifies its demexp votes to the group of
person who have chosen him as delegate?


>      1. Personal opinion and position (not obligatory because its
>         personal hidden vote can be different).
>      2. Common expression of a group of people (example: political
>         group).

If fact, both cases are possible.

In case 1, an individual maintains a web page, a blog, a paper journal
or whatever that explains his position. For example, I, as
delegate_david, could explain on my web page my position of software
patents or GMO. You would delegate to me those subjects if you agree
with my me.

In case 2, an individual is selected, by means specific to a politic
party or group of people, to be the official delegate of this group.
Usual procedures used in current political parties would be used:
usually through a selection process a representative is selected for a
job, e.g. spokesman.

In short, the procedure to select a delegate for a group of people is
outside the scope of demexp.

This is the beauty of the system designed by Félix and Frédéric: demexp
can integrate all kind of delegation schemes. We can integrate classical
political party behavior as well as new, democratic ones.  :)


> In case 2, The official delegate will install a Demexp server and he
> will ask has these voters the position that he must take to have a
> democratic justification and discharge.

Or, in the short term, he will integrate the main demexp server. For
example, to take a French example, François Hollande could integrate
demexp as the official representative of the Parti Socialiste. If you
want to follow all PS positions, you would delegate all your votes to
delegate_hollande.

Is it more clear? Something I've not understood?


> My thinking is rather ;  the voters affiliate themselves has groups the
> results votes of these groups can be used for the delegation. 

You mean, you would like an abstract group name? But how an abstract
group could vote? 

The rationale behind a delegate being equal to a physical person is that
this is that physical person that will act ultimetely in the demexp
system, i.e. vote.


I hope the delegation system is more clear now. Feel free to ask more
details. 

Yours,
d.
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